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Nyob zoo peb tsoom Hmoob sawv daws,

Nej puas paub txog Huab tais Hmoob lub tsev nyob rau Nyab Laj teb chaws? Yog tsis tau paub los zaum no tsim nyob paub lawm, yog tsis tau pom los zaum no tsim nyob pom lawm nawb! Peb Hmoob Tus Huab Tais cov caj ces los xaus rau Nyab Laj teb lawm.

Nyab Laj tau muab peb huab tais hmoob lub tsev ua ib qho chaw rau s/d mus ncig xyua nyob rau lub xeev Ha Giang sab qaum teb. Thiab Nyab Laj kuj lees paub tias Vaj Zoov Xeeb (tuag xyoo 2008) yog ib tug tub huab tais hmoob. Thiab luag yeej khaws tau hmoob tej keeb kwm vaj kav txij li thaum tiam 17 los mus, yam li cov vaj Mub Tuam, Vaj Vab Lwm, Vaj Tsw Xab, Vaj Cev Xwm, Vaj Txoos Vws, Vaj Nkauj Lwb, Vaj Nxuam xauv, Vaj txiab ntawv, vaj zoov looj (1865 rov yav). Los mus txog rau Vaj Zoov Xeeb (Vuong Quynh Son)

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ib qhov question uas tsi muaj answer los rau hmoob li mas yog why cov hmoob nyablaj lawv twb tsi paub txog tus vaj hmoob no li.  puas yog tus vaj hmoob no yog tus nrog suav tua hmoob khiav suav teb los.  

puas yog suav yuav muab nws tua thiab es nws thiaj li caum hmoob los rau nyablaj.  thaum hmoob pom nws los txog naablaj hmoob yuav muab nwg tua es nws thiaj li khiav mus cawm siav tom nyablaj es nyablaj thiaj ua tej lub tsev li no rau nws nyob.

losis lub tsev no ua los ntawm fabkis rau vaj hmoob nyob?

nej sim mus tshawbfawb seb keebkwm yog li cas tiag.  ua tsaug.

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Thov caw koj los saib kab lus hauv qab no:

1. Vương Chính Đức(Vaj Zoo Looj) 1923, under the reign of The Nguyen, Khai Dinh The 13th, Vương Chính Đức(Vaj Zoov Looj) was given this uniform by the king, along with with the title "Bang tá", the head governor of a border/mountainous area, in order to help the king governing the whole Đồng Văn(Tooj Peeb) area then. They are Quản Bạ(550Km.square), Yên Minh(782Km.square), Đồng Văn(446Km.square), and Mèo Vạc(573Km.square).
Since then, all local people call him with the name "Vua Mèo" (means Miao/Hmong King); this name was pass along to call his younger son Vương Chí Thành(Vaj Txhiaj Lwm), too. Gradually, the name "Vua Mèo" was well known to Vietnamese people in the North, especially in Hà Nội, due to the respectfully treat under Hồ Chí Minh's government.
Along with the uniform, the king also honored him a Lacquered Board with the writing"Feng Ke Zheng Bian", means "Rightful honor to the border government" (Hán Việt: Phong Khả Chính Biên/Biên Chính Khả Phong)
Along with the uniform, the king also honored him a Lacquered Board with the writing"Feng Ke Zheng Bian", means "Rightful honor to the border government" (Hán Việt: Phong Khả Chính Biên/Biên Chính Khả Phong).
1940's-la Légion d'honneur - given to Vuong Chinh Duc by the French government's representative, for his role as a governor and a leader of the Hmong people who involved and play an important role in resolving conflicts and matters between the local people and French colonial governing system at the area.

2. Vương Chí Sình or Vương Chí Thành(Vaj Txhiaj Lwm), younger son of Vương Chính Đức(Vaj Zoov Looj) A two- barrel hunting Gun were given to Vương Chí Thành (Vaj Txhiaj Lwm), on behalf of our Vang clan, by the French Indochina government's representative (Colonel - Quan Năm).
A Sword were given to Vương Chí Thành (Vaj Txhiaj Lwm), on behalf of our Vang clan, by Hồ Chí Minh (President of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam term 1945-1969). The sword has carved with eight Chinese words, means "Requiting country untill die, never being slave" (Tận trung báo quốc, bất thụ nô lệ). Vương Chí Thành(Vaj Txhiaj Lwm) was a member of the first(1946-1960) and second term(1960-1964) of the National Assembly of Vietnam.
Hồ Chí Minh also made Vương Chí Thành his sworn brother. The name "Thành" was after Hồ Chí Minh nick name"Nguyễn Tất Thành".
Vương Chí Thành(Vaj Txhiaj Lwm) was the first president of Đồng Văn(Tooj Peeb) (now it is a district of Hà Giang province) from 1946 until 1960.
He was also a member of the Committee for ethnic minorities Affairs from 1960 to 1964.
Hồ Chí Minh honored Vương Chí Thành (Vaj Txhiaj Lwm) an army uniform ("áo trấn thủ"). This uniform was a gift to Hồ Chí Minh from the Women's Union of Hải Dương province; he then gave it to Vương Chí Thành, it's embroiled:"Regard to Vương Chí Thành - Member of The National Assembly. Hồ Chí Minh".
The gun, sword and the uniform, were passed along to Vương Đình Thọ(Vaj Shawm), the younger son of Vương Chí Thành(Vaj Txhiaj Lwm). When he immigrated to Canada, he left them to Vương Duy Quang(son of Vương Quỳnh Anh, whose original clan name was Yang), and said he would return to have them back. Vương Đình Thọ passed away in Canada without being able to do so.
3. Vương Quỳnh Sơn(Vaj Zoov Xeeb), the first grandson of Vương Chính Đức(Vaj Zoov looj)
From 1971 to 2000, Vương Quỳnh Sơn(Vaj Zoov Xeeb) were given multiple awards and medal by the government of Vietnam, included the First Class of Resistance medal, and a medal for his contribution for the Ethnic Minorities and Mountainous affairs. 2008, before he passed away, given a Third Class Freedom Medal from Vietnamese government
He was given an honor medal by the Laos King. When Vương Chính Đức(Vaj Zoo Looj) passed away, this medal also carved on his tombstone along with The Legion of Honor in recognition of his life's achievement.

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 Tub Hmoob, on 16 January 2013 - 07:49 AM, said:

Nyob zoo peb tsoom Hmoob sawv daws,

Nej puas paub txog Huab tais Hmoob lub tsev nyob rau Nyab Laj teb chaws? Yog tsis tau paub los zaum no tsim nyob paub lawm, yog tsis tau pom los zaum no tsim nyob pom lawm nawb! Peb Hmoob Tus Huab Tais cov caj ces los xaus rau Nyab Laj teb lawm.

Nyab Laj tau muab peb huab tais hmoob lub tsev ua ib qho chaw rau s/d mus ncig xyua nyob rau lub xeev Ha Giang sab qaum teb. Thiab Nyab Laj kuj lees paub tias Vaj Zoov Xeeb (tuag xyoo 2008) yog ib tug tub huab tais hmoob. Thiab luag yeej khaws tau hmoob tej keeb kwm vaj kav txij li thaum tiam 17 los mus, yam li cov vaj Mub Tuam, Vaj Vab Lwm, Vaj Tsw Xab, Vaj Cev Xwm, Vaj Txoos Vws, Vaj Nkauj Lwb, Vaj Nxuam xauv, Vaj txiab ntawv, vaj zoov looj (1865 rov yav). Los mus txog rau Vaj Zoov Xeeb (Vuong Quynh Son)

Thov caw saib qhov no




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Txawm yuav yog vaj Hmoob lub tsev los tsis paub tsis yog los tsis paub li lawm.Tsam no ces luag hais li cas yus tias yog li cas lawm xwb.Hmoob txawm yuav nyiam muaj tsawg tus huab tais los Hmoob tsis muaj teb tsis muaj chaw li luag lwm haiv neeg.nyob suav teb Hmoob kuj muaj huab tais txiv yawg.tab sis kuj muaj huab tais qhuav xwb tsis muaj teb chaws.nyob nyab laj Hmoob kuj muaj tus huab tais nej hais no los Hmoob kuj tsuas yog muaj huab tais qhuav xwb tsis muaj teb chaws thiab.

 


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Xeevtxwjlaug,

Koj hais kuj yog thiab, tiam sis yus yeej yuav tau kawm thiab khaws yus haiv neeg tej keeb kwm ntuj qub qab thiab hos, mas thiaj li yuav paub tias tag los no yus haiv neeg zoo li cas ho los txog ntu no. Thiab tom ntej no ne peb ho yuav mus txoj twg thiaj li yuav tsis txhob ua rau rov taug txoj qub lw.

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Tu siab qhov tsis paub lus Nyab-laj xwb.

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Consistency kev sau ntawv Hmoob:
H always comes after all consonants, except HMOOB.

Lhoov Tshiab:

B = NP
J = NTS
NX = NTX
G = NK
^ = Xn while n = any number > 1 (in this standard) (Coob^ = Coob2 = Coob Coob)

Siv tus (-) los txuas compound words: Tu-siab, ja-iab, Nyab-laj, mam-li, etc.


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Hauv cov clips no lawv kuj tham ntau yam tseem ceeb hais txog ntawm lub tsev no thiab Vaj Zoov Looj tsev neeg xws li: Thaum Vaj Zoov Looj lawv tsiv suav teb los nyob rau cheeb tsam no mas Vaj Zoov Looj kuj nrhiav mus thoob txhia chaw thiaj li nyiam qhov chaw no yog ib lub pov roob nyob hauv ib lub plawv nras uas muaj roob vij tag, yog ib qho chaw zoo heev uas yuav ua rau tej xeeb leej xeeb ntxwv huaj vam li ntws tuaj. Mas Vaj Zoov Looj thiaj li xaiv ua nws lub tsev rau lub pov roob no muaj npoo av li 2000 m2 nws thiab nws cov hmoob nyob cheeb tsam no tau tawm yeeb mus muag rau suav thiab fab kis thiaj tau nyiaj los ntiav ib pab suav tuaj ua lub tsev no rau nws, mas lub tsev no yog tsev Vaj Hmoob tiam sis suav ua ces thiaj li muaj ntsis zoo li tsev suav, muaj 4 lub tsev ib xab, 6 lub yog ob xab, muaj cov chav pw rau nws tsev neeg, chav ua hauj lwm ntawm tus Vaj Zoov Looj thiab nws cov tub, muaj chav rau cov tub mab tub qhe, cov peeb zeej zov thiab chav txais tos qhua tuaj...

Vaj Zoov Looj muaj 3 tug poj niam, tiam sis tus niam nrab tsis muaj tub mas tsis tau thaij duab cia. Niam loj muaj 2 tug tub, mus kawm tag fab kis los. Niam Yau muaj 2 tug tub, ib tug tuag thaum me lawm, tshuav ib tug kuj mus kawm tag suav los thiab...

Tom qab Vaj Zoov Looj ces nws cov tub tsis yog Huab Tais lawm, tiam sis lawv yog xeem vaj ces pheej muab hu ua Vaj xwb hos tsis yog Vaj lawm, vim tias xyoo 1938 lawv tau kos ntawv tso tseg txoj kev ua vaj hmoob los mus coj yoog Fab Kis thiab Nyab Laj lawm xwb.

Xyoo 2004-2005 tseem fwv Nyab Laj thiaj li tau muab lub tsev no nce npe ua tsev lej laug rau s/d tuaj mus ncig saib thiab kawm txog hmoob tej keeb kwm...

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Nej puas nco tau lawm thaum is lawv caws tus Vaj Zoo Xeeb tuaj nyajlaj teb tuaj nas lawv...nej nco tau no ces lub tsev no txawm yog nws yawg lub ntag.
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 Tub Hmoob, on 18 January 2013 - 01:40 AM, said:

Hauv cov clips no lawv kuj tham ntau yam tseem ceeb hais txog ntawm lub tsev no thiab Vaj Zoov Looj tsev neeg xws li: Thaum Vaj Zoov Looj lawv tsiv suav teb los nyob rau cheeb tsam no mas Vaj Zoov Looj kuj nrhiav mus thoob txhia chaw thiaj li nyiam qhov chaw no yog ib lub pov roob nyob hauv ib lub plawv nras uas muaj roob vij tag, yog ib qho chaw zoo heev uas yuav ua rau tej xeeb leej xeeb ntxwv huaj vam li ntws tuaj. Mas Vaj Zoov Looj thiaj li xaiv ua nws lub tsev rau lub pov roob no muaj npoo av li 2000 m2 nws thiab nws cov hmoob nyob cheeb tsam no tau tawm yeeb mus muag rau suav thiab fab kis thiaj tau nyiaj los ntiav ib pab suav tuaj ua lub tsev no rau nws, mas lub tsev no yog tsev Vaj Hmoob tiam sis suav ua ces thiaj li muaj ntsis zoo li tsev suav, muaj 4 lub tsev ib xab, 6 lub yog ob xab, muaj cov chav pw rau nws tsev neeg, chav ua hauj lwm ntawm tus Vaj Zoov Looj thiab nws cov tub, muaj chav rau cov tub mab tub qhe, cov peeb zeej zov thiab chav txais tos qhua tuaj...

Vaj Zoov Looj muaj 3 tug poj niam, tiam sis tus niam nrab tsis muaj tub mas tsis tau thaij duab cia. Niam loj muaj 2 tug tub, mus kawm tag fab kis los. Niam Yau muaj 2 tug tub, ib tug tuag thaum me lawm, tshuav ib tug kuj mus kawm tag suav los thiab...

Tom qab Vaj Zoov Looj ces nws cov tub tsis yog Huab Tais lawm, tiam sis lawv yog xeem vaj ces pheej muab hu ua Vaj xwb hos tsis yog Vaj lawm, vim tias xyoo 1938 lawv tau kos ntawv tso tseg txoj kev ua vaj hmoob los mus coj yoog Fab Kis thiab Nyab Laj lawm xwb.

Xyoo 2004-2005 tseem fwv Nyab Laj thiaj li tau muab lub tsev no nce npe ua tsev lej laug rau s/d tuaj mus ncig saib thiab kawm txog hmoob tej keeb kwm...
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Thaum ub cov Hmoob los nyob nyab laj teb tsawg tshaj peb cov nyob USA no lawv twb muaj peev xwm ua teb yeeb coj mus muag los ua tau lub tsev loj li no rau Hmoob tus huab tais Vaj zoov looj nyob lawm.Ua cas peb cov Hmoob USA no twb coob npaum no peb ho tsis muaj tsab peev xwm ua tau 1 lub tsev rau peb tus Yawg hlob nai phoo vaj pov nyob li ne?
Tam sim no Yawg hlob nai phoo vaj pov tag sim neej lawm los peb Hmoob twb sawv 1 tug vaj tshiab xws li Vaj siv yis ntuj neeb nyob pem Alaska lawm kuj tsim nyog peb Hmoob sib sau kom tau me ntsis nyiaj mus ua kom tau 1 lub tsev loj rau peb tus Vaj siv yis ntuj neeb no nyob thiab nav.Yog peb pheej tsis quav ntsej peb tus vaj ces tsis ntev no peb kawg poob cev qhev dua ntag laiv.

 MotherNature, on 18 January 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

Nej puas nco tau lawm thaum is lawv caws tus Vaj Zoo Xeeb tuaj nyajlaj teb tuaj nas lawv...nej nco tau no ces lub tsev no txawm yog nws yawg lub ntag.
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Kuv nco tau kawg mas thaum lawv caw tus yawg hlob Vaj zoov xeeb tuaj mas Hmoob kuj mus nrog tham coob tab sis zoo li nws tsis tsab nom tsis tsab ntse li ces Hmoob txawm xav tias nws tsis yog neeg paub tab no ces Hmoob cia li tas kev cia siab lawm.Txij ntawd los ces Hmoob cia li cia qis qis lawm xwb.

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 Xeevtxwjlaug, on 19 January 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:


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Thaum ub cov Hmoob los nyob nyab laj teb tsawg tshaj peb cov nyob USA no lawv twb muaj peev xwm ua teb yeeb coj mus muag los ua tau lub tsev loj li no rau Hmoob tus huab tais Vaj zoov looj nyob lawm.Ua cas peb cov Hmoob USA no twb coob npaum no peb ho tsis muaj tsab peev xwm ua tau 1 lub tsev rau peb tus Yawg hlob nai phoo vaj pov nyob li ne?
Tam sim no Yawg hlob nai phoo vaj pov tag sim neej lawm los peb Hmoob twb sawv 1 tug vaj tshiab xws li Vaj siv yis ntuj neeb nyob pem Alaska lawm kuj tsim nyog peb Hmoob sib sau kom tau me ntsis nyiaj mus ua kom tau 1 lub tsev loj rau peb tus Vaj siv yis ntuj neeb no nyob thiab nav.Yog peb pheej tsis quav ntsej peb tus vaj ces tsis ntev no peb kawg poob cev qhev dua ntag laiv.
Yog kawg, s/d tsim nyog xav, peb tib neeg ces txawj yug, txawj loj, txawj laus, txawj tuag. Yog peb ua tau ib yam khaws cia. Piv li lub tsev Vaj Hmoob no nws thiaj li yuav nyob nrog peb mus tau ntev ntev kom txheej tom qab thiaj li tau tuaj pom thiab kawm paub txog

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Peb yuav muab tham txij ntuj, nqis qhov av los tsis muaj txiajig dabtsi. Qhov tseeb ces saib peb puas tsheej ib haiv Hmoob, hais ib lo lus xwb mas. Peb txawm yog ib haiv Hmoob los nyias hais nyias yam lus ces yeej mus tsis txog qhovtwg. Leejtwg hais tias kuv hais tsis yog, teb tuaj meb.

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Consistency kev sau ntawv Hmoob:
H always comes after all consonants, except HMOOB.

Lhoov Tshiab:

B = NP
J = NTS
NX = NTX
G = NK
^ = Xn while n = any number > 1 (in this standard) (Coob^ = Coob2 = Coob Coob)

Siv tus (-) los txuas compound words: Tu-siab, ja-iab, Nyab-laj, mam-li, etc.


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Peb Hmoob, ib tug nyob ib ceg kaum ntuj. Yuav tau muaj ib yam los tuav peb txoj kev ua haiv thiab peb thiaj li yuav tsis txia mus ua luag haiv

Ua ntej thaum peb yuav ua tau ib haiv, kom hais ib lo lus los txhua tug hmoob paub thoob ntuj peb yuav tsum tau txhawb peb cag neeg kom s/d paub tias peb cag neeg loj npaum cas, zoo npaum cas

Kev txhawb yus cag neeg no, keeb kwm yav tag los kuj yog ib txoj kev txhawb haiv uas tseem ceeb thiab, txhob thuam.

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 Tub Hmoob, on 20 January 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

Peb Hmoob, ib tug nyob ib ceg kaum ntuj. Yuav tau muaj ib yam los tuav peb txoj kev ua haiv thiab peb thiaj li yuav tsis txia mus ua luag haiv

Ua ntej thaum peb yuav ua tau ib haiv, kom hais ib lo lus los txhua tug hmoob paub thoob ntuj peb yuav tsum tau txhawb peb cag neeg kom s/d paub tias peb cag neeg loj npaum cas, zoo npaum cas

Kev txhawb yus cag neeg no, keeb kwm yav tag los kuj yog ib txoj kev txhawb haiv uas tseem ceeb thiab, txhob thuam.
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Yog nej xav txhawb yus tsav neeg Hmoob kom sawv taus tiag ces kav tsij muab 1 leeg $1.00 tuaj mus ua kom tau 1 lub tsev rau yawg hlob xaiv kaub nyob xwb ces hauj lwm ntseg xwb los mas nawb.

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 tseemmoob, on 16 January 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

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ib qhov question uas tsi muaj answer los rau hmoob li mas yog why cov hmoob nyablaj lawv twb tsi paub txog tus vaj hmoob no li.  puas yog tus vaj hmoob no yog tus nrog suav tua hmoob khiav suav teb los.  

puas yog suav yuav muab nws tua thiab es nws thiaj li caum hmoob los rau nyablaj.  thaum hmoob pom nws los txog naablaj hmoob yuav muab nwg tua es nws thiaj li khiav mus cawm siav tom nyablaj es nyablaj thiaj ua tej lub tsev li no rau nws nyob.

losis lub tsev no ua los ntawm fabkis rau vaj hmoob nyob?

nej sim mus tshawbfawb seb keebkwm yog li cas tiag.  ua tsaug.

Sounds like this king was given this label by the Vietnamese authorities, He was not a king recognized by the Hmong from China or Laos or anywhere else in the world.

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I'm curious how such king would have died without anyone else knowing though. What happened? Any descendant of the one who died in 2008?

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Xeevtxwjlaug,  thawj zaug nws tuaj muaj neeg nrog nraim nws tsis nrug lis nws yuav tsum ua qhov tsis paub dab tsis hlos
Luag tsis yog hom neeg nyiam khav thiab cuab ntse lis cov hmoob Meskas teb nas es twb hos tsis paub dab tsis los cias lis yog nais Pha Nais Phoos nes.
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 Xeevtxwjlaug, on 27 January 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

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Yog nej xav txhawb yus tsav neeg Hmoob kom sawv taus tiag ces kav tsij muab 1 leeg $1.00 tuaj mus ua kom tau 1 lub tsev rau yawg hlob xaiv kaub nyob xwb ces hauj lwm ntseg xwb los mas nawb.

Xeev aws cov nyuag tuaj hais hais ces lam ua ncauj ncab xwb yeej tsis pab
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 MotherNature, on 29 January 2013 - 06:41 AM, said:

Xeev aws cov nyuag tuaj hais hais ces lam ua ncauj ncab xwb yeej tsis pab
Yog lawm Mother coob tus tuaj hauv nov ua luaj twb tsis muaj neeg kam pab Maiv thiab Chin nkawv li.
Cov neeg ntse 4 sab ua hauj lwm loj ua thawj coj khav theeb twb tsis pab lam tuaj tso pam thawj xwb.

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Yog nej xav txhawb yus tsav neeg Hmoob kom sawv taus tiag ces kav tsij muab 1 leeg $1.00 tuaj mus ua kom tau 1 lub tsev rau yawg hlob xaiv kaub nyob xwb ces hauj lwm ntseg xwb los mas nawb.
Mas kuv ho tsis tau paub tus yawg hlob xaiv kaub thiab koj sim qhia saib nws ho yog leej twg thiab ho muaj txiaj ntsig rau peb hmoob baum cas mas sawv daws thiaj paub tham

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 Guest, on 28 January 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

I'm curious how such king would have died without anyone else knowing though. What happened? Any descendant of the one who died in 2008?
Tus Vaj zoov xeeb tuag 2008 tsis yog King. Nws yog vaj zoov looj tus xeeb ntxwv xwb. Tus uas tau lub meej mom the king of hmong mas tsuas yog Vaj zoov looj xwb. Vaj zoov looj twb tuag 1947 lawm. Thaum nws tuag nws twb plam lub be king lawm thiab. Qhov nws ua king yog kwv yees li 1910s-1938 xwb.

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 tub hmoob, on 02 February 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

Mas kuv ho tsis tau paub tus yawg hlob xaiv kaub thiab koj sim qhia saib nws ho yog leej twg thiab ho muaj txiaj ntsig rau peb hmoob baum cas mas sawv daws thiaj paub tham

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Nyob ntawm no ne yawg hlob xaiv kaub vaj yog tus uas ua heev heev rau lawv ntawm no ntag nawb.


Edited by Xeevtxwjlaug, 03 February 2013 - 04:07 PM.

Kuv hlub tus uas hlub kuv xwb.


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kuv xav mas tej zaum nyab laj lam uaev tuav hmoob npe thiab feem coob yuav tsum paub. .

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Thov cov kwvtij kwvnpawg thiab cov leejmuam hmoob nyob nyablaj tebchaws ua paub txog txoj dab neeg no zoo zoo tuaj piav qhia rau peb tau kawm nwb.

Ua tsaug ntau.

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kuv pom zoo os uas qhov kom peb cov me nyuam hmoob khaws tej qub txeeg qub teg cia na vim nej tsis khaws ib hnub tom ntej thaum peb cov me nyuam hmoob txawj ntse lawm tig rov mus nrhiav ces luag lwm hais neeg rov qab muag peb li keeb kwm rau peb xwb puas yog ma. peb li keeb kwm tab sis txog thaum kawg luag rov muab muag yuav nyiaj ua puas khib yus thiab ma qhov nej pheej tsis xav khaws na .

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 tseemmoob, on 16 January 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

tubhmoob,

ib qhov question uas tsi muaj answer los rau hmoob li mas yog why cov hmoob nyablaj lawv twb tsi paub txog tus vaj hmoob no li.  puas yog tus vaj hmoob no yog tus nrog suav tua hmoob khiav suav teb los.  

puas yog suav yuav muab nws tua thiab es nws thiaj li caum hmoob los rau nyablaj.  thaum hmoob pom nws los txog naablaj hmoob yuav muab nwg tua es nws thiaj li khiav mus cawm siav tom nyablaj es nyablaj thiaj ua tej lub tsev li no rau nws nyob.

losis lub tsev no ua los ntawm fabkis rau vaj hmoob nyob?

nej sim mus tshawbfawb seb keebkwm yog li cas tiag.  ua tsaug.

KUV HNOV ME NTSIS HAIS TIAS LUB TSEV NO TSEEM MUAJ IB LUB TUNEL NKAG MUS NTSHW KIAG RAU CIAM TEB SUAV THIAB NO LAIV...ES PUA MUAJ TSEEB NE? LEEJ TWG PUAS PAUB THIAB?

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Zoo siab ua ntuj tsaug uas peb Hmoob sawvdaws kuj yog tau zoo nyob  kawg li lawm sawvdaws thiaj khoom222222222
tuaj sib tham li no, tus yuav tham li cas los tau.   Yog ua laj kam los yog ua teb noj ces qee zaus quav dim twb tsis khoom tso.

Kuv tsuas hais li no xwb, nej muaj lus ab tsi teb tuaj seb, yog nrog kuv zoo zoo siab lawm ces kom koj, kuv peb ntshav cia li Qis es los sib tuav tes ua txheeb ua ze, ua phoojywg xwb. tham npaum cas los tsis muaj av ces tej dab neeg ntawd tsis sawv qhov twg tuaj.

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Tsis yog koj xwb. Txhua leej txhua tus Hmoob yeej xav kom Hmoob muaj av. Tiam sis kv saib zoo li twb tsis muaj leej twg paub txog txoj kev yuav taug mus cuag lub HOMPHIAJ ko kiag li. S/d lam ua dab ntub npau suav xwb os. Qhov tseeb ces nyob qhov twg kav tsij yoog luag cai. Nrhiav kev txhim kho kom peb Hmoob nrog luag muaj kuv phem nplua nuj lwm yam mam tham tom qab tsis lig os

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 TubQwj, on 13 August 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

Thov cov kwvtij kwvnpawg thiab cov leejmuam hmoob nyob nyablaj tebchaws ua paub txog txoj dab neeg no zoo zoo tuaj piav qhia rau peb tau kawm nwb.

Ua tsaug ntau.


Zoo lid thaub Tub_Hmoob tseem paub zaj dab neeg nod zoo tshaj txhua leej txhua tus lawm laid.  Ntshe cov kwv tij kwv npawg nyob Nyab-Laj teb tsis paub npaum aib thaub nod lid os.  Tsis paub kiag los yog ces tsis tas noog lawd os nawb.  Tub_Hmoob hais tias muaj tseeb ces yog tseeb lawm xwb os -- HAHAHA!

Kuv mas tsuas xav paub hais tias Tub_Hmoob cov pom-thawj (evidence, facts, records) yog dab tsid thiab los qhov twg los thiab los ntawm leej twg kiag (researchers, scholars, historians, Hmoob) nrog nws paub no xwb os.  Yog qhia tau tej nod meej-meej ces nyaj kuv, los sis peb Hmoob, kuj muaj pob-ntseg qhov-muag nrog nws soj ntsuam me-me kom kawg, hauv paus nto ntsis.  Hos yog hais tawm ntawm nws lub qhov-ncauj thiab Nyab-Laj lub qhov-ncauj xwb ces peb txhua-txhua tus yog HUABTAIS tag nrho os nawb -- HAHAHA!

Kom nej nco ntsoov hais tias Nyab-Laj lub tswv yim dag neeg mas tob tiag-tiag tsis zoo lid Hmoob lub es hais ntawm qhov-ncauj xwb ov.  Seb, luag tseem muaj vaj tsev khov-kho los dag nej tib sid.  Lub tsev nod, nej saib zoo-zoo pub yog cov tsev ua thaum caij nyoog 1910-1938 lid Tub_Hmoob hais nod mad: " Qhov nws ua king yog kwv yees li 1910s-1938 xwb. "

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LMAO,

Kuv yog Tub_Hmoob, Qhov tseeb tiag kuv los kuj tsis paub zoo txog cov dab neeg no thiab. Tiam sis vim tias peb cov kwv tij Hmoob Nyab Laj kuj muaj tsawg leej heev uas nkag tuaj nrog cov kwv tij Hmoob Meskas sib tham hauv no. Li ntawd kuv thiaj li tso cov xov no tawm vim tias peb cov kwv tij Hmoob meskas los kuj tsis tau muaj neeg yuav paub txog tej no tseeb thiab.

Hais txog cov Pov thawj mas yeej muaj ntau heev, tiam sis zoo li nws yeej sau ntawv Nyab Laj tag xwb sub. Yog leej twg paub lus Nyab Laj ces yeej mus nrhiav nyeem tau txhua qhov txhia chaw, tsuav yog kj nkag mus rau lub xeev Ha Giang (Ham Yang) xwb ces lub tsev Huab tais Hmoob no yeej yog ib qho chaw ncig uas muaj koob nrov npe tshaj plaws nyob rau Ha Giang. Lub xeev Ha Giang yeej yog ib lub xeev uas muaj Hmoob nyob coob tshaj plaws  hauv teb chaws nyab laj nws muaj nto 231.464 leej ntawm cov hmoob thoob Nyab Laj teb yog 1.068.189 leej

Vaj Zoov Xeeb uas yog Vaj Zoov Looj tus xeeb ntxwv twb tau tuaj ib zaug Meskas thiab twb tau nrog Dr. Yang Dao thaij ib daig duab ua ke kiag. Tej no yeej muaj tseeb. Tsuas tias Vaj Zoov Looj kuj tsis yog ib tug Huab Tais uas yuav tsa muaj ib lub teb chaws, tiam sis nws yog peb Hmoob ib tug Coj uas sawv daws hwm nws ib yam li ib tug Vaj Hmoob yam li tam sim no peb Hwm Vaj Pov, tias yog peb ib tug Vaj Hmoob. Yog koj xav search cov information, facts,etc txog Vaj Hmoob nyob Nyab Laj koj sau "Vua Meo" = "Miao King" los yog "Vua Mong" = "Hmong King" los yog "Nha Vua Meo" = " Miao King Palce" hauv google, youtube yeej muaj tso ntau qhov heev.

Ib qho tseem ceeb qhia rau peb paub mas yog thaum ub tej laus tsuas hais tias Paj Cai Vwj mas khiav sab Moos Theeb los thiab nyob nyob nws cia li txawj ua tej txuj ci. Tiam sis qhov tseeb tiag Paj Cai muaj lub hauv paus loj nyob nyab laj teb uas yog Vaj Zoov Looj ua tus nres mas tsis yog Paj Cai ib leeg twm zeej sawv coj Hmoob tua Fabkis xwb

Sib ntsib dua,

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Nyob zoo, yog li kuv hais tau hais tias Paj Cai VWJ yog ib tus Tub  puv los ntawd Vaj Zoov Looj los puas yog ?

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Kuv nyeem tas kuv twb tsis pom ib lo lus hais tias nws yog Huabtais Hmoob no li mab! Kuv tsuas pom lawv sau hais tias nws tau ua ib tug tswvxeev (Cobkheem/Governor) saib sab qaumteb Nyablaj uas npuasciam rau Suavteb xwb as. Nej leejtwg hp pom sau rau qhovtwg hais tias nws yog "Huabtais" lawm no?
Tseeb ua tsis tau cuav, cuav ua tsis tau tseeb. Txoj cai plaubntug nyias ntsais tam nplooj nqeeb

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Tus neeg no txawm yog Hmoob los nws tsuas yog tub txib tub qhev rau Nyablaj xwb. Nws tsis yog huabtais -- LMAO!

Nyablaj mas dag tiag2 kom Hmoob mus saib mus poob nyiaj rau tim Nyablaj teb xwb. Txhob ruamm2 nawb Hmoob.