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[quote name='Neeg Phem' date='22 March 2011 - 02:12 AM' timestamp='1300756361' post='376302']
Laura yog ib tug poj niam muaj txiv, muaj me tub me nyuam, thiab nws comes from a good family, yog leej twg tsis txaus siab no tso npe tawm los kuv mam nrog  debate txog tej dej nuv politics nws tau ua los seb.
Tsis yog ntsub neeg es lam tau lam hais lus nawb. Laura muaj kwv muaj tij txawj ntse coob tus hos....thov nco koj cov lus cia.

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Kuv tsis lam hais nav, es koj tsis pom lawv twb muab daim duab liab qab post nyob hauv hmongza no tias Laura xyooj no nes tus me bawg Exile aw. Koj rov mus nrhiav kom thoob cov post no saib, kuv hais li muaj xwb nas.
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Koj tseem yov kom kuv mus nrhiav licas nas npawg neeg phem?, koj twb pom thiab paub tseeb tias muaj tiag ces nrhiav los es kuv mam kom Laura tus Lawyer pab taug nws tus ip seb nws yog tus neeg  zoo licas tiag es thiaj yov muaj lub siab phem ua luaj nas.

Txawm Laura tsis yog Hmoob Vaj los tsis yog GVP pawg ntseeg kubxaj los nws yeej hlub Hmoob tib yam thiab nas.

Tim licas Hmoob thiaj li muab tej nyuag kas moos phim npab kubxaj no coj los ua chaw sib ntxub mas,  hmoob lub hlwb tseem yog hlwb 5000 xyoo dhau los los?.


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View PostGuest, on 21 March 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

Hmoobtwm zeej,
kuv tsis pom koj tus npawg hais lus zoo nyob qhov twg as.   Tsuas yog pom nws tuaj against peb hauv no xwb, tiam sis nws qhov always against ntawd kuj tsis phem phem heev thiab.   Yawg no mas nej nco ntsoov ov, yog koj qhuas tus liab mas nws nyiam koj heev nawb,  kuv paub tias nws nyiam, tab sis nws ho pheej pw hauv tsev xwb tsis mus nrog liab muaj kev negotiation thiab tiag.


Npawg Guest,

txhob hais li koj mas, peb ua neeg nyob--peb yuav tsum cias txhua tus tuaj tham li luag txoj kev "Xav=Opinions" thiab.  xws li ntawd, peb thiaj li pom both sides of the story, qhov no thiaj li pab ruas peb lub qhov muag kom pom deb thiab tsi tag li ntawd xwb.  peb thiaj li txawj thimxav thiab nkagsiab zoo los draw our conclusion rau tej lus peb tau hnov thiab tham tham no mas nawb.

yog li, tej no miv miv xwb txhob chim thiab mobsiab rau tej lus no nawb.  tseem xav kom muaj ntau tus tuaj opposite--xws peb thiaj li muaj Positive and Negative at the same time...li no, peb thiaj li yuav neutralize tau ntau yam nawb.

ua tsaug rau koj cov zoo lus...

Npawg Hmoobtwmzeej

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[quote name='Neeg Phem' date='21 March 2011 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1300756361' post='376302']
Laura yog ib tug poj niam muaj txiv, muaj me tub me nyuam, thiab nws comes from a good family, yog leej twg tsis txaus siab no tso npe tawm los kuv mam nrog  debate txog tej dej nuv politics nws tau ua los seb.
Tsis yog ntsub neeg es lam tau lam hais lus nawb. Laura muaj kwv muaj tij txawj ntse coob tus hos....thov nco koj cov lus cia.

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Kuv tsis lam hais nav, es koj tsis pom lawv twb muab daim duab liab qab post nyob hauv hmongza no tias Laura xyooj no nes tus me bawg Exile aw. Koj rov mus nrhiav kom thoob cov post no saib, kuv hais li muaj xwb nas.
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Kuv Nej cov niag neeg no es lam tau lam hais lus phem rau tej neeg zoo
li Laura lawv no dab tsi, kuv hnov txhua tus neeg paub Laura mas lawv hais tias Laura tseem ncaj tshaj ib tug txiv neej thiab no hos, cov ntxub Laura ces yog cov xav, xav ua tau li nws los tsis tau ces thiaj khib thiab hais lus phem xwb. kuv xav lawm tam sim no peb cov txiv neej hmoob no mas tsis ntse tshaj poj niam thiab ua tsis tau dab tsi li tab sis xav xav kom poj niam mus tsim meej mom los rau yus ev xwb tab sis peb tsis tsis ntse li thaum ub lawm yog peb muaj peev xwm ua tau tej yam zoo lawm peb yeej tsis lam yuav muaj ua nej npe yooj, yooj yim, tab yog kuv tus txiv kiag kuv twb tsis cia nws claim yooj, yooj yim. nej yuav tsum hwm txhua, txhua tus poj niam hnub no mus nawb, tam sim no peb cov poj niam muaj coob tshaj 50% ua thawj coj, ua nom ua tswv nyob hauv nom tswv tej chaw ua dej ua num lawm nej puas pom ib tug txiv neej twg es nws xam maj fooj tau ib tug poj niam mus nyob nkuaj (jail)118yrs. lub xyoo. peb cov poj niam muaj tus puav lawm, txhob muab luag tej poj niam zoo coj mus hais dog dig li nej nawb mog.

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[quote name='poj niam sib pab' date='22 March 2011 - 11:36 AM' timestamp='1300818987' post='376503']
Kuv tsis lam hais nav, es koj tsis pom lawv twb muab daim duab liab qab post nyob hauv hmongza no tias Laura xyooj no nes tus me bawg Exile aw. Koj rov mus nrhiav kom thoob cov post no saib, kuv hais li muaj xwb nas.
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Kuv Nej cov niag neeg no es lam tau lam hais lus phem rau tej neeg zoo
li Laura lawv no dab tsi, kuv hnov txhua tus neeg paub Laura mas lawv hais tias Laura tseem ncaj tshaj ib tug txiv neej thiab no hos, cov ntxub Laura ces yog cov xav, xav ua tau li nws los tsis tau ces thiaj khib thiab hais lus phem xwb. kuv xav lawm tam sim no peb cov txiv neej hmoob no mas tsis ntse tshaj poj niam thiab ua tsis tau dab tsi li tab sis xav xav kom poj niam mus tsim meej mom los rau yus ev xwb tab sis peb tsis tsis ntse li thaum ub lawm yog peb muaj peev xwm ua tau tej yam zoo lawm peb yeej tsis lam yuav muaj ua nej npe yooj, yooj yim, tab yog kuv tus txiv kiag kuv twb tsis cia nws claim yooj, yooj yim. nej yuav tsum hwm txhua, txhua tus poj niam hnub no mus nawb, tam sim no peb cov poj niam muaj coob tshaj 50% ua thawj coj, ua nom ua tswv nyob hauv nom tswv tej chaw ua dej ua num lawm nej puas pom ib tug txiv neej twg es nws xam maj fooj tau ib tug poj niam mus nyob nkuaj (jail)118yrs. lub xyoo. peb cov poj niam muaj tus puav lawm, txhob muab luag tej poj niam zoo coj mus hais dog dig li nej nawb mog.
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Zoo siab,

Kuv xav hais tias, peb ua tig neeg nyob, peb hais dab tsi hais kom ncaj ncees, hais kom sawv daws txhua leej neeg sij tau & yuav tau xwb yom.  Leej twg los xij, yog nws muab ib tug los puab rau txhua leej "stereotype" no yuav tau xav kom zoo zoo.  Yus hais luag yog tus phem, as I've stated elsewhere, labeling others does not make them as such, it just shows our own self-reflection, our own inflexibility and our own impartiality.  Luag hais li rau yus los ntshe yus yuav tsis nyiam tib yam puas yog.  Yog yus tsis txaus siab rau leej twg, tuav rawv ko riam hais thiaj li yog neeg ncaj ncees, neeg xav kom sawv daws muaj kev sib haum xeeb.  Peb yuav tau nkag siab hais tias, ib tug neeg twg tau raug kaw los, ntawd txhais tsis tau 100% hais tias nws yog tus phem thiab yom.  Tsuas qhia tau tias tsis muaj tus pab nws zoo xwb.  Nco ntsoov hais tias, cia luag qhuas yus tso yus mam li qhuas yus thiaj li yuav muaj nuj nqis.

Best regards, Qibsiab
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[quote name='Dr. Qibsiab' date='22 March 2011 - 01:11 PM' timestamp='1300824671' post='376523']
Kuv Nej cov niag neeg no es lam tau lam hais lus phem rau tej neeg zoo
li Laura lawv no dab tsi, kuv hnov txhua tus neeg paub Laura mas lawv hais tias Laura tseem ncaj tshaj ib tug txiv neej thiab no hos, cov ntxub Laura ces yog cov xav, xav ua tau li nws los tsis tau ces thiaj khib thiab hais lus phem xwb. kuv xav lawm tam sim no peb cov txiv neej hmoob no mas tsis ntse tshaj poj niam thiab ua tsis tau dab tsi li tab sis xav xav kom poj niam mus tsim meej mom los rau yus ev xwb tab sis peb tsis tsis ntse li thaum ub lawm yog peb muaj peev xwm ua tau tej yam zoo lawm peb yeej tsis lam yuav muaj ua nej npe yooj, yooj yim, tab yog kuv tus txiv kiag kuv twb tsis cia nws claim yooj, yooj yim. nej yuav tsum hwm txhua, txhua tus poj niam hnub no mus nawb, tam sim no peb cov poj niam muaj coob tshaj 50% ua thawj coj, ua nom ua tswv nyob hauv nom tswv tej chaw ua dej ua num lawm nej puas pom ib tug txiv neej twg es nws xam maj fooj tau ib tug poj niam mus nyob nkuaj (jail)118yrs. lub xyoo. peb cov poj niam muaj tus puav lawm, txhob muab luag tej poj niam zoo coj mus hais dog dig li nej nawb mog.
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Zoo siab,

Kuv xav hais tias, peb ua tig neeg nyob, peb hais dab tsi hais kom ncaj ncees, hais kom sawv daws txhua leej neeg sij tau & yuav tau xwb yom.  Leej twg los xij, yog nws muab ib tug los puab rau txhua leej "stereotype" no yuav tau xav kom zoo zoo.  Yus hais luag yog tus phem, as I've stated elsewhere, labeling others does not make them as such, it just shows our own self-reflection, our own inflexibility and our own impartiality.  Luag hais li rau yus los ntshe yus yuav tsis nyiam tib yam puas yog.  Yog yus tsis txaus siab rau leej twg, tuav rawv ko riam hais thiaj li yog neeg ncaj ncees, neeg xav kom sawv daws muaj kev sib haum xeeb.  Peb yuav tau nkag siab hais tias, ib tug neeg twg tau raug kaw los, ntawd txhais tsis tau 100% hais tias nws yog tus phem thiab yom.  Tsuas qhia tau tias tsis muaj tus pab nws zoo xwb.  Nco ntsoov hais tias, cia luag qhuas yus tso yus mam li qhuas yus thiaj li yuav muaj nuj nqis.

Best regards, Qibsiab
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wbm....Dr. qigsiab cas mloog koj hais lus zoo ua luaj li es cia li xav paub koj lawm ne?  Kuv xav tau ib tug hlub yog Dr. li koj es nws hais cas los kuv ua raws li nws hais tag nro li xwb tiag leej muam. Yuav ua cas thiab tau ne?

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[quote name='Menyuam Hmoob' date='22 March 2011 - 06:49 PM' timestamp='1300844942' post='376583']
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Zoo siab,

Kuv xav hais tias, peb ua tig neeg nyob, peb hais dab tsi hais kom ncaj ncees, hais kom sawv daws txhua leej neeg sij tau & yuav tau xwb yom.  Leej twg los xij, yog nws muab ib tug los puab rau txhua leej "stereotype" no yuav tau xav kom zoo zoo.  Yus hais luag yog tus phem, as I've stated elsewhere, labeling others does not make them as such, it just shows our own self-reflection, our own inflexibility and our own impartiality.  Luag hais li rau yus los ntshe yus yuav tsis nyiam tib yam puas yog.  Yog yus tsis txaus siab rau leej twg, tuav rawv ko riam hais thiaj li yog neeg ncaj ncees, neeg xav kom sawv daws muaj kev sib haum xeeb.  Peb yuav tau nkag siab hais tias, ib tug neeg twg tau raug kaw los, ntawd txhais tsis tau 100% hais tias nws yog tus phem thiab yom.  Tsuas qhia tau tias tsis muaj tus pab nws zoo xwb.  Nco ntsoov hais tias, cia luag qhuas yus tso yus mam li qhuas yus thiaj li yuav muaj nuj nqis.

Best regards, Qibsiab
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wbm....Dr. qigsiab cas mloog koj hais lus zoo ua luaj li es cia li xav paub koj lawm ne?  Kuv xav tau ib tug hlub yog Dr. li koj es nws hais cas los kuv ua raws li nws hais tag nro li xwb tiag leej muam. Yuav ua cas thiab tau ne?
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Tus phoojywg,

Kuv qhia rau koj tias tus neeg twg uas nws tuaj sau tias nws yog ib tug Dr, no ces tus no yog dauv taw xwb tsis yog Dr. nawb.   Twb yog nws xav xav tau Dr. tab sis tub nkeeg tsis xav mus kawm es tsis tau ces thiaj tuaj sau xwb, koj txhob xav tias yog tiag tiag, tus no mas ntshe nws twb tsis tag high School thiab nav, kom koj paub li ntawd xwb, ua tsaug.

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[quote name='poj niam sib pab' date='22 March 2011 - 11:36 AM' timestamp='1300818987' post='376503']
Kuv tsis lam hais nav, es koj tsis pom lawv twb muab daim duab liab qab post nyob hauv hmongza no tias Laura xyooj no nes tus me bawg Exile aw. Koj rov mus nrhiav kom thoob cov post no saib, kuv hais li muaj xwb nas.
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Kuv Nej cov niag neeg no es lam tau lam hais lus phem rau tej neeg zoo
li Laura lawv no dab tsi, kuv hnov txhua tus neeg paub Laura mas lawv hais tias Laura tseem ncaj tshaj ib tug txiv neej thiab no hos, cov ntxub Laura ces yog cov xav, xav ua tau li nws los tsis tau ces thiaj khib thiab hais lus phem xwb. kuv xav lawm tam sim no peb cov txiv neej hmoob no mas tsis ntse tshaj poj niam thiab ua tsis tau dab tsi li tab sis xav xav kom poj niam mus tsim meej mom los rau yus ev xwb tab sis peb tsis tsis ntse li thaum ub lawm yog peb muaj peev xwm ua tau tej yam zoo lawm peb yeej tsis lam yuav muaj ua nej npe yooj, yooj yim, tab yog kuv tus txiv kiag kuv twb tsis cia nws claim yooj, yooj yim. nej yuav tsum hwm txhua, txhua tus poj niam hnub no mus nawb, tam sim no peb cov poj niam muaj coob tshaj 50% ua thawj coj, ua nom ua tswv nyob hauv nom tswv tej chaw ua dej ua num lawm nej puas pom ib tug txiv neej twg es nws xam maj fooj tau ib tug poj niam mus nyob nkuaj (jail)118yrs. lub xyoo. peb cov poj niam muaj tus puav lawm, txhob muab luag tej poj niam zoo coj mus hais dog dig li nej nawb mog.
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poj niam sib pab,

ob daim ntawv uas phoojywg Txam muab tso hauv no yog Laura thiab Vajxab sau tiag tiag laiv yom. Yog muaj tseeb tiag ces Laura yeej yog neeg phem heev laiv vim nws twb yog tus uas muab Hmoob DD muag noj ntag hos. Koj nco puas tau thaum Laura nqua hu Hmoob Miskas kom pab nyiaj rau nws coj mus ua tsev rau Hmoob DD nyob? Hmoob pab tau nyiaj ntau kawg tiamsis nws coj mus siv tsis muaj paus ntsis li. Koj puas xav tias nws muab me ntsis yuav nqeeb ua tsev rau lawv tiamsis feem ntau nws khaws cia hnab kas paus lawm xwb?  Kuv xav li ntawd nawb, poj niam sib pab.

Qhov ob tuaj Laura yog tus uas Kaibxiv cov Hmoob DD tshaj. Lawv cia siab kawg rau nws tabsis nws lub homphiaj yog ntxias kom tau lawv rov mus Nplog xwb vim nws tau sibtw nrog rau Vajxab ne. Nej tsis pom nws sob lus uas nws sau tias Vajxab twv tias cov Hmoob DD yeej yuav tau tuaj Miskas tiamsis Laura ho hais tias Hmoob DD yuav tsum raug xa rov rau  Nplog?  Thaum kawg Laura thiaj hais tias Laura yog tus yeej lawm no laiv. Peb hmoob miskas xav twb tsis txog tias peb kuj tsaug nws dag tib yam li cov Hmoob DD thiab.  Tus neeg limhiam lino tsis tsim nyog peb tham txog thiab qhuas txog nws lawm. Txij hnub no mus cia nws yijmeem ntaus nruas puab luaj seb nws ho mus tau deb npaum twg nawb.

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[quote name='Guest' date='22 March 2011 - 07:21 PM' timestamp='1300846874' post='376590']
wbm....Dr. qigsiab cas mloog koj hais lus zoo ua luaj li es cia li xav paub koj lawm ne?  Kuv xav tau ib tug hlub yog Dr. li koj es nws hais cas los kuv ua raws li nws hais tag nro li xwb tiag leej muam. Yuav ua cas thiab tau ne?
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Tus phoojywg,

Kuv qhia rau koj tias tus neeg twg uas nws tuaj sau tias nws yog ib tug Dr, no ces tus no yog dauv taw xwb tsis yog Dr. nawb.   Twb yog nws xav xav tau Dr. tab sis tub nkeeg tsis xav mus kawm es tsis tau ces thiaj tuaj sau xwb, koj txhob xav tias yog tiag tiag, tus no mas ntshe nws twb tsis tag high School thiab nav, kom koj paub li ntawd xwb, ua tsaug.
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Zoo siab tus Phoojywg Guest,

Koj cov lus sau no mas hais tau txaus luag kawg.  Tej zaum koj los yeej luag koj tus kheej los yeej muaj, rau kuv los yeej txaus luag thiab.  Tab sis nco ntxoov hais tias ib tug neeg hais tau li cas ces qhov ntawd yog nws qhov self-reflection.  Tos koj hais li saum no los, kuv yeej paub hais tias koj yeej tsis tau doctor tiag.  Kuv tau hais li no los, kuv yeej tau lawm tiag, kuv tsis 'need' yuav prove rau koj hais tias kuv tau PhD, tab sis yog koj xav paub tiag los kuv mam li qhia meej rau koj los yeej tau kawg, tsis muaj teeb meem.  

Peb sawv dawd yeej paub hais tias, kev kawm yuav PhD yeej tsis yoojyim tiag, li ntawd ... leej twg muaj siab tiag thiab hmoov txog thiaj li yuav mus txog.  Kuv hais meej rau koj paub tias kuv kawm tau 2-daim Master, tam sis no kuj kawm tiav kuv daim PhD.  Yog koj xav paub ntxiv los hais tuaj, kuv mam teb koj cov lus kom meej tshaj nod los yeej tau ib yam nawb.  Xav tias hais li no xwb, koj yuav nkag siab zoo thiab.

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View PostDr. Qibsiab, on 22 March 2011 - 01:11 PM, said:


Zoo siab,

Kuv xav hais tias, peb ua tig neeg nyob, peb hais dab tsi hais kom ncaj ncees, hais kom sawv daws txhua leej neeg sij tau & yuav tau xwb yom.  Leej twg los xij, yog nws muab ib tug los puab rau txhua leej "stereotype" no yuav tau xav kom zoo zoo.  Yus hais luag yog tus phem, as I've stated elsewhere, labeling others does not make them as such, it just shows our own self-reflection, our own inflexibility and our own impartiality.  Luag hais li rau yus los ntshe yus yuav tsis nyiam tib yam puas yog.  Yog yus tsis txaus siab rau leej twg, tuav rawv ko riam hais thiaj li yog neeg ncaj ncees, neeg xav kom sawv daws muaj kev sib haum xeeb.  Peb yuav tau nkag siab hais tias, ib tug neeg twg tau raug kaw los, ntawd txhais tsis tau 100% hais tias nws yog tus phem thiab yom.  Tsuas qhia tau tias tsis muaj tus pab nws zoo xwb.  Nco ntsoov hais tias, cia luag qhuas yus tso yus mam li qhuas yus thiaj li yuav muaj nuj nqis.

Best regards, Qibsiab
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Npawg Qibsiab,

tej lus koj mas yog yus txoj kev ntshaw xwb, tabsi peb yuav tsum ua siab loj thiab dav tshaj no--cias txhua tus tuaj tawmsuab li nws li tej Opinion tagnrho...xws thiaj li yog Vajhuamsibluag ned.  li kuv hais os, li no peb thiaj li pom both sides of the world.  qhov no, peb thiaj li paub qhov phem thiab qhov zoo--xws peb thiaj li yuav los luj tau txoj kev ncajncees tiag nawb.

yog koj yuav kom tog Democrate los hais lus zoo li tog Republican tib yam...hos tos Replican los hais lus zoo tib yam li tog Democrate thiab xwb...yuav ua li cas muaj qhov zoo naj.  peb yeej muaj ib lub Utopi world rau peb nyob li nad.  yog li, ntshe yog yus tsi paub dabtsi kiag es yus distinguish tsi tau qhov yog thiab tsi yog ntawm cov ncauj lug xwb laud.

yog yus paub txaus lawm thiab muaj Data txaus lawm--txawm tog Democrate hais los yus yeej nkagsiab tias luag hais dabtsi thiab lam hais kom muaj neeg Vote rau lawv thiab xwb...hos txawm yog tog Republican hais los yeej yog nkagsiab tiag luag tsua lam ntxia kom neeg Vote lawv thiab xwb.  

hnub twg peb kam tso cai thiab txos peb tej cwjpwm kom nqi li no--hnub ntawd peb thiaj li tsi muaj kev sib dub muag li peb Hmoob no li lawm nawb mog.

ua tsaug rau koj cov nqi lus zoo thiab txhawb zog nawb.

Hmoobtwmzeej

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View PostHmoobtwmzeej, on 23 March 2011 - 08:23 AM, said:

Npawg Qibsiab,

tej lus koj mas yog yus txoj kev ntshaw xwb, tabsi peb yuav tsum ua siab loj thiab dav tshaj no--cias txhua tus tuaj tawmsuab li nws li tej Opinion tagnrho...xws thiaj li yog Vajhuamsibluag ned.  li kuv hais os, li no peb thiaj li pom both sides of the world.  qhov no, peb thiaj li paub qhov phem thiab qhov zoo--xws peb thiaj li yuav los luj tau txoj kev ncajncees tiag nawb.

yog koj yuav kom tog Democrate los hais lus zoo li tog Republican tib yam...hos tos Replican los hais lus zoo tib yam li tog Democrate thiab xwb...yuav ua li cas muaj qhov zoo naj.  peb yeej muaj ib lub Utopi world rau peb nyob li nad.  yog li, ntshe yog yus tsi paub dabtsi kiag es yus distinguish tsi tau qhov yog thiab tsi yog ntawm cov ncauj lug xwb laud.

yog yus paub txaus lawm thiab muaj Data txaus lawm--txawm tog Democrate hais los yus yeej nkagsiab tias luag hais dabtsi thiab lam hais kom muaj neeg Vote rau lawv thiab xwb...hos txawm yog tog Republican hais los yeej yog nkagsiab tiag luag tsua lam ntxia kom neeg Vote lawv thiab xwb.  

hnub twg peb kam tso cai thiab txos peb tej cwjpwm kom nqi li no--hnub ntawd peb thiaj li tsi muaj kev sib dub muag li peb Hmoob no li lawm nawb mog.

ua tsaug rau koj cov nqi lus zoo thiab txhawb zog nawb.

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Muaj tseeb, yeej paub hais tias nyob teb chaws America no, ob pawg parties muaj zog tshaj ces yeej yog 'Democrat' thiab 'Republican'.  Ob pawg no, nyiam muaj nyiam agenda, tab sis thaum kawg los mus pawg twg suav ntau ces npawg ntawd yuav yog pawg yeej.  Kuv hais no, kuv tsis tuaj leej twg tog, kuv tsuas hais kev ncajncees xwb, tsis yog yuav thuam leej twg, tsis tau khav theeb, tsis tau txwv leeg twg, tsis tau muab leej twg saib qes.  Neeg ces yus mloog nws seem lus xwb yus yeej paub tias nws 'favor' los yog muaj 'bias' rau sab twg, tab sis yog neeg ncajncees, hais ces neeg yeej yuav tau thiab siv tau.  Yog li no, luag tebchaws America no thiaj li muaj kev xaiv nomtswv los 'represent' lawv lub suab, thiaj li muaj 3-branches, 2-lub houses es thiaj li yuav muaj kev los 'balance of power', kev ncajncees rau pej xeem sawv daws.

Muab piv xam li Libya tam sim no, yog tsis muaj kev sib debate ces leej twg muaj zog ces nws yuav ua kom nws tus kheej yeej xwb.  Yog li no, thiaj li yuav tau muaj neej los rub nws kom 'in line' los rau txoj kev ncajncees - es sawv daws thiaj yuav muaj kev vammeej thiab kev sib haum xeeb.

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Muaj tseeb, yeej paub hais tias nyob teb chaws America no, ob pawg parties muaj zog tshaj ces yeej yog 'Democrat' thiab 'Republican'.  Ob pawg no, nyiam muaj nyiam agenda, tab sis thaum kawg los mus pawg twg suav ntau ces npawg ntawd yuav yog pawg yeej.  Kuv hais no, kuv tsis tuaj leej twg tog, kuv tsuas hais kev ncajncees xwb, tsis yog yuav thuam leej twg, tsis tau khav theeb, tsis tau txwv leeg twg, tsis tau muab leej twg saib qes.  Neeg ces yus mloog nws seem lus xwb yus yeej paub tias nws 'favor' los yog muaj 'bias' rau sab twg, tab sis yog neeg ncajncees, hais ces neeg yeej yuav tau thiab siv tau.  Yog li no, luag tebchaws America no thiaj li muaj kev xaiv nomtswv los 'represent' lawv lub suab, thiaj li muaj 3-branches, 2-lub houses es thiaj li yuav muaj kev los 'balance of power', kev ncajncees rau pej xeem sawv daws.

Muab piv xam li Libya tam sim no, yog tsis muaj kev sib debate ces leej twg muaj zog ces nws yuav ua kom nws tus kheej yeej xwb.  Yog li no, thiaj li yuav tau muaj neej los rub nws kom 'in line' los rau txoj kev ncajncees - es sawv daws thiaj yuav muaj kev vammeej thiab kev sib haum xeeb.

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Npawg/phoojywg, Yog li cas nej hos muab vang xang thiab laura lub topic pov tseg lawm es nej hos mus tham txog nej tus kheej thiab lwm yam xwb naj. tsis yog nej swb nkawm lawm los. he he

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wbm....Dr. qigsiab cas mloog koj hais lus zoo ua luaj li es cia li xav paub koj lawm ne?  Kuv xav tau ib tug hlub yog Dr. li koj es nws hais cas los kuv ua raws li nws hais tag nro li xwb tiag leej muam. Yuav ua cas thiab tau ne?
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Tus phoojywg,

Kuv qhia rau koj tias tus neeg twg uas nws tuaj sau tias nws yog ib tug Dr, no ces tus no yog dauv taw xwb tsis yog Dr. nawb.   Twb yog nws xav xav tau Dr. tab sis tub nkeeg tsis xav mus kawm es tsis tau ces thiaj tuaj sau xwb, koj txhob xav tias yog tiag tiag, tus no mas ntshe nws twb tsis tag high School thiab nav, kom koj paub li ntawd xwb, ua tsaug.
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Hiv hiv hiv !!!!  kuv los kuj pom li koj hais thiab yawg.
Tos kuv pom li koj thiab no mas kuv pom tias luag cov tau  Ph.D tiag tiag ses luag tsis khoom tuaj tej no !!! thiab luag tsis lam yuav tuaj nrog me nyuam yau sib deal muaj yeej!! muaj swb hauv tej no ib zaug !!!   Ib qho mas kuv los yog koj peb txawm yuav qhuas peb npaum cas los ua li ib txhia twb hais lawm !!! mus tshawb xyuas koj, kuv peb tus Ph.D tsis muaj nyob hauv luag tus criteria.
Nov ces txhais tau tias dag.   Thiab yog thaum kuv tau Ph.D lawm ces cia nej hu kuv xwb, tsis muaj qhov uas kuv rov hu kuv ua Ph.D no las mas.

Leej twg yog pheej tuaj qhuas nws tus kheej heev heev ces txhais tau tias nws tus Ph.D ntawd yog phony/ Fake  Xiab nyiaj xwb thiaj tsis nyob hauv tus criteria  !!!  hiv hiv hiv !!!! lam tham ua si kom lom zem xwb !!!    Hais tseeb mas, tus twg tau Ph.D ses nws muaj hauj lwm ua lawm tsis khoom kiag li nawj.   Hos tus uas tshwm nplawv npliv li peb no ces tsuas yog txaus tshais hmo xwb, thiaj khoom.


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Muaj tseeb, yeej paub hais tias nyob teb chaws America no, ob pawg parties muaj zog tshaj ces yeej yog 'Democrat' thiab 'Republican'.  Ob pawg no, nyiam muaj nyiam agenda, tab sis thaum kawg los mus pawg twg suav ntau ces npawg ntawd yuav yog pawg yeej.  Kuv hais no, kuv tsis tuaj leej twg tog, kuv tsuas hais kev ncajncees xwb, tsis yog yuav thuam leej twg, tsis tau khav theeb, tsis tau txwv leeg twg, tsis tau muab leej twg saib qes.  Neeg ces yus mloog nws seem lus xwb yus yeej paub tias nws 'favor' los yog muaj 'bias' rau sab twg, tab sis yog neeg ncajncees, hais ces neeg yeej yuav tau thiab siv tau.  Yog li no, luag tebchaws America no thiaj li muaj kev xaiv nomtswv los 'represent' lawv lub suab, thiaj li muaj 3-branches, 2-lub houses es thiaj li yuav muaj kev los 'balance of power', kev ncajncees rau pej xeem sawv daws.

Muab piv xam li Libya tam sim no, yog tsis muaj kev sib debate ces leej twg muaj zog ces nws yuav ua kom nws tus kheej yeej xwb.  Yog li no, thiaj li yuav tau muaj neej los rub nws kom 'in line' los rau txoj kev ncajncees - es sawv daws thiaj yuav muaj kev vammeej thiab kev sib haum xeeb.

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yeej muaj li tiag, li ntawd thiaj li xav pom lawv txhua tus li opinions...txawm tus hais phem hais zoo los thiaj li paub qhov ntseeb nrog rau tej kev debate li koj hais no.

lub sijhawm no Ameska peb branches of government no twb tsi zoo zujzus lawm...vim sab twg los yeej muaj political agenda tagnrho lawm...even the Judicial branch.

tsuav yog wb sibnkag siab li no lawm xwb ces zoo lawm....

muaj tej lub sijhawm yus yuav tsum tsi txhob question luag li Sovereign Nation duty li nyob Libya thiab. vim thaum txog yus yus muab yus li kev Sovereignty los hais, tabsi thaum txog luag no ces yus hos yuav tsi recognize luag li Sovereignty no mas zoo li yog Double Standard lawm.

ua tsaug nawb,

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View Postquest, on 23 March 2011 - 09:24 AM, said:

Npawg/phoojywg, Yog li cas nej hos muab vang xang thiab laura lub topic pov tseg lawm es nej hos mus tham txog nej tus kheej thiab lwm yam xwb naj. tsis yog nej swb nkawm lawm los. he he

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Yog lawm yom, yeej txaus luag kawg li koj hais saum nod... tab sis neeg ces yuav kom ib tug swb xwb no yuav tau taug kom ncaj thiab thaum kawg luag thiaj li yuav swb yus tau.  Muaj ib txhia, tsawm nws twb yog tus swb lawm los, nws yeej tsis nyoo swb li thiab hod.  

Vim muaj qho leej tus 'guest' tsis zoo siab/khib los yog possibly feel threatened rau kuv li 'title' thiaj li derail los li no xwb.  Yog sawv daws hais taug kev rawv, raws kev ncajncees xwb ces yeej muaj kev taug xwb yom.  Vim neeg siab nkhaus limhiam lam tau lam hais mus qab roob qab ha, rhais ib tsis ntse qab ke ob tsis ntse qaum kev ces thiaj mus tsis txog tsev.

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Tus phoojywg,

Kuv qhia rau koj tias tus neeg twg uas nws tuaj sau tias nws yog ib tug Dr, no ces tus no yog dauv taw xwb tsis yog Dr. nawb.   Twb yog nws xav xav tau Dr. tab sis tub nkeeg tsis xav mus kawm es tsis tau ces thiaj tuaj sau xwb, koj txhob xav tias yog tiag tiag, tus no mas ntshe nws twb tsis tag high School thiab nav, kom koj paub li ntawd xwb, ua tsaug.
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Hiv hiv hiv !!!!  kuv los kuj pom li koj hais thiab yawg.
Tos kuv pom li koj thiab no mas kuv pom tias luag cov tau  Ph.D tiag tiag ses luag tsis khoom tuaj tej no !!! thiab luag tsis lam yuav tuaj nrog me nyuam yau sib deal muaj yeej!! muaj swb hauv tej no ib zaug !!!   Ib qho mas kuv los yog koj peb txawm yuav qhuas peb npaum cas los ua li ib txhia twb hais lawm !!! mus tshawb xyuas koj, kuv peb tus Ph.D tsis muaj nyob hauv luag tus criteria.
Nov ces txhais tau tias dag.   Thiab yog thaum kuv tau Ph.D lawm ces cia nej hu kuv xwb, tsis muaj qhov uas kuv rov hu kuv ua Ph.D no las mas.

Leej twg yog pheej tuaj qhuas nws tus kheej heev heev ces txhais tau tias nws tus Ph.D ntawd yog phony/ Fake  Xiab nyiaj xwb thiaj tsis nyob hauv tus criteria  !!!  hiv hiv hiv !!!! lam tham ua si kom lom zem xwb !!!    Hais tseeb mas, tus twg tau Ph.D ses nws muaj hauj lwm ua lawm tsis khoom kiag li nawj.   Hos tus uas tshwm nplawv npliv li peb no ces tsuas yog txaus tshais hmo xwb, thiaj khoom.

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Nyobzoo npawg Hwm,

Peb nyob rau University qibsiab peb yeej siv peb li title, vim ntawd yeej yog peb li tsis muaj leej twg yuav los txeeb tau.  Kuv tsis tau khav theeb rau leej twg, kuv tsuas hais qhov muaj tseeb xwb.  Luag tseem tau PhD los yus txob khib khib thiab mas, vim yus tsis rau siab ne, khib ntau mob hlwb tuag tau hod.  Koj hais yog lawm, yog koj yog meyuam yaus no koj yuav tsis muaj lub tswjyim limhiam li ko yom.  Li ko tsuas txhais tau hais tias neeg xam khib xwb.  Kuv ntsia zoo li koj twb tsis xav luag li puas yog.  Tos rawm xam khib mog npawj Hwm, rau rau siab thiaj li yuav caum tau luag nawb.

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yeej muaj li tiag, li ntawd thiaj li xav pom lawv txhua tus li opinions...txawm tus hais phem hais zoo los thiaj li paub qhov ntseeb nrog rau tej kev debate li koj hais no.

lub sijhawm no Ameska peb branches of government no twb tsi zoo zujzus lawm...vim sab twg los yeej muaj political agenda tagnrho lawm...even the Judicial branch.

tsuav yog wb sibnkag siab li no lawm xwb ces zoo lawm....

muaj tej lub sijhawm yus yuav tsum tsi txhob question luag li Sovereign Nation duty li nyob Libya thiab. vim thaum txog yus yus muab yus li kev Sovereignty los hais, tabsi thaum txog luag no ces yus hos yuav tsi recognize luag li Sovereignty no mas zoo li yog Double Standard lawm.

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Kuv nkag siab zoo rau nyiam li tebchaws "sovereignty".  If we look at history, Ho Chi Minh claimed sovereignty for Vietnam, which the rest is history.  Sometimes, we do question such action myself whether it is appropriate to bomb Libya, and of course no one dares to challenge a powerful nation, except maybe Russia and China.  What the U.S is doing could have detrimental implications in the future, but this is what the U.S. government (President Obama) and its allies see as legitimate and appropriate at this time.

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Kuv nkag siab zoo rau nyiam li tebchaws "sovereignty".  If we look at history, Ho Chi Minh claimed sovereignty for Vietnam, which the rest is history.  Sometimes, we do question such action myself whether it is appropriate to bomb Libya, and of course no one dares to challenge a powerful nation, except maybe Russia and China.  What the U.S is doing could have detrimental implications in the future, but this is what the U.S. government (President Obama) and its allies see as legitimate and appropriate at this time.

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koj muab ua twb zoo xav xwb mas...li Waco, Texas and Tiananmen Square... txog luag tus muaj zog, lawv tsua hais tib los tias, it is our own domestic issue and our own sovereigty. tsi muaj neeg hais tau ib los, txog tej lub teb chaw me me li Libya thiab Iraq. luag overide kiag xwb... li no, thiaj li hais tias, ua neeg nyob ces yeej tsi muaj ib yam "Fair thiab Ncajncees" lis.

ua tsaug, ua wb nkagsiab txog tej kev sibtham thiab discussion no lawm...smile!

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View PostHmoobtwmzeej, on 23 March 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

koj muab ua twb zoo xav xwb mas...li Waco, Texas and Tiananmen Square... txog luag tus muaj zog, lawv tsua hais tib los tias, it is our own domestic issue and our own sovereigty. tsi muaj neeg hais tau ib los, txog tej lub teb chaw me me li Libya thiab Iraq. luag overide kiag xwb... li no, thiaj li hais tias, ua neeg nyob ces yeej tsi muaj ib yam "Fair thiab Ncajncees" lis.

ua tsaug, ua wb nkagsiab txog tej kev sibtham thiab discussion no lawm...smile!

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Nod yog kev sib pauv tswv yim xwb, thov tsis txhob take it personally.

Hais txog kev ncajncees, yog tus neeg twg coj tau zoo neeg yeej paub kawg.  However, one equation may not be applicable to every scenario.  Let me give you an example:  if a then b, if b then c; therefore, if a then c (i.e. if 1<2, if 2<3, then 1<3).  This proof is always valid in mathematical logic; however, in human social phenomenon one can prove otherwise.  For example, yog tus* tom tus miv, tus miv tom tus nas, ntawd txhais tsis tau hais tias tus* tom tus nas.  If you comprehend the difference between the equations above, then I'm sure we understand each other clearly.  Ua dab tsi los xij, mloog ob tog kom meej tseeb tso mas draw your own conclusion.  Hais txog America mus deal nrog Korea los yeej tib yam.  Yeej paub zoo hais tias tib neeg, nom tswv muaj ib txhia yeej tsis nkajncees, tab sis yog tsuav muaj qhov yuav tau siv nyog lawm xwb ces yuav tau txo hwjchim los accept thiab yom.    

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Nod yog kev sib pauv tswv yim xwb, thov tsis txhob take it personally.

Hais txog kev ncajncees, yog tus neeg twg coj tau zoo neeg yeej paub kawg.  However, one equation may not be applicable to every scenario.  Let me give you an example:  if a then b, if b then c; therefore, if a then c (i.e. if 1<2, if 2<3, then 1<3).  This proof is always valid in mathematical logic; however, in human social phenomenon one can prove otherwise.  For example, yog tus* tom tus miv, tus miv tom tus nas, ntawd txhais tsis tau hais tias tus* tom tus nas.  If you comprehend the difference between the equations above, then I'm sure we understand each other clearly.  Ua dab tsi los xij, mloog ob tog kom meej tseeb tso mas draw your own conclusion.  Hais txog America mus deal nrog Korea los yeej tib yam.  Yeej paub zoo hais tias tib neeg, nom tswv muaj ib txhia yeej tsis nkajncees, tab sis yog tsuav muaj qhov yuav tau siv nyog lawm xwb ces yuav tau txo hwjchim los accept thiab yom.    

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ua li mas, cov no yog simple task thiab 1 dimension xwb.  twb tsi yog yuav kom muab transform mus rau 4 to 5 dimensional space, yog li ntawd, hnub twg peb cov coob paub mus tob tshaj thiab txog li 4 to 5 dimensional space lawm tiag.  hnub ntawd, peb thiaj li txawj thim xav thiab nkagsiab li wb hais no nawb.  

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Kuv tsis lam hais nav, es koj tsis pom lawv twb muab daim duab liab qab post nyob hauv hmongza no tias Laura xyooj no nes tus me bawg Exile aw. Koj rov mus nrhiav kom thoob cov post no saib, kuv hais li muaj xwb nas.
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Kuv Nej cov niag neeg no es lam tau lam hais lus phem rau tej neeg zoo
li Laura lawv no dab tsi, kuv hnov txhua tus neeg paub Laura mas lawv hais tias Laura tseem ncaj tshaj ib tug txiv neej thiab no hos, cov ntxub Laura ces yog cov xav, xav ua tau li nws los tsis tau ces thiaj khib thiab hais lus phem xwb. kuv xav lawm tam sim no peb cov txiv neej hmoob no mas tsis ntse tshaj poj niam thiab ua tsis tau dab tsi li tab sis xav xav kom poj niam mus tsim meej mom los rau yus ev xwb tab sis peb tsis tsis ntse li thaum ub lawm yog peb muaj peev xwm ua tau tej yam zoo lawm peb yeej tsis lam yuav muaj ua nej npe yooj, yooj yim, tab yog kuv tus txiv kiag kuv twb tsis cia nws claim yooj, yooj yim. nej yuav tsum hwm txhua, txhua tus poj niam hnub no mus nawb, tam sim no peb cov poj niam muaj coob tshaj 50% ua thawj coj, ua nom ua tswv nyob hauv nom tswv tej chaw ua dej ua num lawm nej puas pom ib tug txiv neej twg es nws xam maj fooj tau ib tug poj niam mus nyob nkuaj (jail)118yrs. lub xyoo. peb cov poj niam muaj tus puav lawm, txhob muab luag tej poj niam zoo coj mus hais dog dig li nej nawb mog.
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Hi Pojniampabpojniam
Tas li kuv studied txog Dr. Yang Dao, Dr. Pob Ge, Pov Faj, Laura L Xiong, mus rau vang vauh.. los licas nyob DC, Vang Xa, thiab Tsav Vaj&GVP lawv tej actions mas yeej mus tib yam, tiamsis Laura thiab Dr. Yang Dao raug singled out vim zoo li peb Hmoob tseem muaj discrimination between clans or/and discrimination between men and women ntau heev. Ib pab tsis pub kom ib pab ua tus loj tshaj ib pab, los yog muaj ib pab mas xav kom nws tau ua tus loj ntawm savdaws tas mus li xwb mas thiaj tsis muaj teebmeem. Yog lam muaj ib pab sawv siab zog licas ces  nws pawg ntseeg nrhiav kev iab liam kom tus neeg ntawd poob tsim los yog plam nws lub title mas thiaj tas.

Kuv tuaj no tsis yog tuaj defend Laura L Xiong, tiamsis kuv tuaj defend peb Hmoob neej Hmoob tsav kev sib hlub ua ib haiv neeg Hmoob nkaus xwb.....tsis hais xeem twg los tsuav muaj qualifications rau nws txoj hauj lwm  ces cia nws tuav mus es lwm zaus ho txog twg thib los mam sib hloov mus kom kev sib faib sib npaug mas peb thiaj yov tsis muaj kev sib pauj ib txheej dhau ib txheej.

Ua tsaug rau koj txoj kev ncaj ncees!


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Xyov puas muaj tiag, yog muaj li hais.
tej neeg ntawd tsis zoo siv, vim laus lawm.  Tseem ntiav thiab mas nkim nyiaj xwb nas.

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Kuv Nej cov niag neeg no es lam tau lam hais lus phem rau tej neeg zoo
li Laura lawv no dab tsi, kuv hnov txhua tus neeg paub Laura mas lawv hais tias Laura tseem ncaj tshaj ib tug txiv neej thiab no hos, cov ntxub Laura ces yog cov xav, xav ua tau li nws los tsis tau ces thiaj khib thiab hais lus phem xwb. kuv xav lawm tam sim no peb cov txiv neej hmoob no mas tsis ntse tshaj poj niam thiab ua tsis tau dab tsi li tab sis xav xav kom poj niam mus tsim meej mom los rau yus ev xwb tab sis peb tsis tsis ntse li thaum ub lawm yog peb muaj peev xwm ua tau tej yam zoo lawm peb yeej tsis lam yuav muaj ua nej npe yooj, yooj yim, tab yog kuv tus txiv kiag kuv twb tsis cia nws claim yooj, yooj yim. nej yuav tsum hwm txhua, txhua tus poj niam hnub no mus nawb, tam sim no peb cov poj niam muaj coob tshaj 50% ua thawj coj, ua nom ua tswv nyob hauv nom tswv tej chaw ua dej ua num lawm nej puas pom ib tug txiv neej twg es nws xam maj fooj tau ib tug poj niam mus nyob nkuaj (jail)118yrs. lub xyoo. peb cov poj niam muaj tus puav lawm, txhob muab luag tej poj niam zoo coj mus hais dog dig li nej nawb mog.
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Hi Pojniampabpojniam
Tas li kuv studied txog Dr. Yang Dao, Dr. Pob Ge, Pov Faj, Laura L Xiong, mus rau vang vauh.. los licas nyob DC, Vang Xa, thiab Tsav Vaj&GVP lawv tej actions mas yeej mus tib yam, tiamsis Laura thiab Dr. Yang Dao raug singled out vim zoo li peb Hmoob tseem muaj discrimination between clans or/and discrimination between men and women ntau heev. Ib pab tsis pub kom ib pab ua tus loj tshaj ib pab, los yog muaj ib pab mas xav kom nws tau ua tus loj ntawm savdaws tas mus li xwb mas thiaj tsis muaj teebmeem. Yog lam muaj ib pab sawv siab zog licas ces  nws pawg ntseeg nrhiav kev iab liam kom tus neeg ntawd poob tsim los yog plam nws lub title mas thiaj tas.

Kuv tuaj no tsis yog tuaj defend Laura L Xiong, tiamsis kuv tuaj defend peb Hmoob neej Hmoob tsav kev sib hlub ua ib haiv neeg Hmoob nkaus xwb.....tsis hais xeem twg los tsuav muaj qualifications rau nws txoj hauj lwm  ces cia nws tuav mus es lwm zaus ho txog twg thib los mam sib hloov mus kom kev sib faib sib npaug mas peb thiaj yov tsis muaj kev sib pauj ib txheej dhau ib txheej.

Ua tsaug rau koj txoj kev ncaj ncees!

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Npawg Exile,

Peb hmoob miskas ces tsuas yog qev luag toj yug yaj luag tais rau ntxhai xwb es tseem muaj YD phav thiab VP phav thiab lov?  VP txawm tsis txawj ntawv npaum YD los nco ntsoov tias VP ntse dua thiab nws yog tus muaj txoj koobmoov ua tus coj. Yog YD muab nws txoj kev txawj ntaub ntawv ntawd los pab VP ua tib lub zog xwb ces peb Hmoob yeej mus tau deb dua no tiamsis thaum nws txawj ntawv dua no ces nws ho xav los ua tus coj lawm.  Niaj hnub no yog kuv xav tsis yuam kev peb Hmoob tseem muaj ntau tshaj ob phav kasmoos lawm. Yog zoo li no es Hmoob tsis los ua ib pab koom tib lub siab xwb ces yav pem suab Hmoob ntsib teeb meem zoo li yav tag los uas yog Hmoob DD los Hmoob Miskas yuav tsis muaj peevxwm pab tau kiag li vim ib phav pab tawm plaws ntsuab siab nrog koj kev hlub kev tshua kev ncajncees los ib phav yuav tshuav kom plam mus tib yam nkaus. Ntawm kuv tus kheej mas xav tias phaum thaub laus no tseem muaj sia nyob ces Hmoob yeej tsis muaj kev thaj yeeb thaj yaj kiag. Koj puas xav li ntawd thiab npawg Exile?

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Me koj txiv neej pab txiv neej aw.   Qhia koj paub tias yog koj muaj sij hawm nrog tej tus neeg ruamm uas ncauj puam suab khawv, tes taw tuag zawv ntawd tham ces koj yeem mus pw tsaug zog zoo dua os mog.   Tej tus neeg ntawd kuv saib saib yog niag neeg tsis tseem ceeb kiag, hais lus twb tsis yog nruab nrab ntug hos nws hais nws sab uas raws nws txheeb ze thiab nws yaim yaim tus tod lub qhovquav xwb es.   Li no kuv thiaj tias kom koj khoom yeem pw tsaug zog.   Koj xav puas yog?   Raws li kuv xav mas zoo li tej tus neeg ruamm ntawd yog phem npaum ntawd ua cas ho tsis sau nra rov qab, es pheej tuag rooj teb no ua dab tsi naj los.

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[quote name='txivneejsibpab' date='22 March 2011 - 10:29 PM' timestamp='1300858155' post='376603']
Kuv Nej cov niag neeg no es lam tau lam hais lus phem rau tej neeg zoo
li Laura lawv no dab tsi, kuv hnov txhua tus neeg paub Laura mas lawv hais tias Laura tseem ncaj tshaj ib tug txiv neej thiab no hos, cov ntxub Laura ces yog cov xav, xav ua tau li nws los tsis tau ces thiaj khib thiab hais lus phem xwb. kuv xav lawm tam sim no peb cov txiv neej hmoob no mas tsis ntse tshaj poj niam thiab ua tsis tau dab tsi li tab sis xav xav kom poj niam mus tsim meej mom los rau yus ev xwb tab sis peb tsis tsis ntse li thaum ub lawm yog peb muaj peev xwm ua tau tej yam zoo lawm peb yeej tsis lam yuav muaj ua nej npe yooj, yooj yim, tab yog kuv tus txiv kiag kuv twb tsis cia nws claim yooj, yooj yim. nej yuav tsum hwm txhua, txhua tus poj niam hnub no mus nawb, tam sim no peb cov poj niam muaj coob tshaj 50% ua thawj coj, ua nom ua tswv nyob hauv nom tswv tej chaw ua dej ua num lawm nej puas pom ib tug txiv neej twg es nws xam maj fooj tau ib tug poj niam mus nyob nkuaj (jail)118yrs. lub xyoo. peb cov poj niam muaj tus puav lawm, txhob muab luag tej poj niam zoo coj mus hais dog dig li nej nawb mog.
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poj niam sib pab,

ob daim ntawv uas phoojywg Txam muab tso hauv no yog Laura thiab Vajxab sau tiag tiag laiv yom. Yog muaj tseeb tiag ces Laura yeej yog neeg phem heev laiv vim nws twb yog tus uas muab Hmoob DD muag noj ntag hos. Koj nco puas tau thaum Laura nqua hu Hmoob Miskas kom pab nyiaj rau nws coj mus ua tsev rau Hmoob DD nyob? Hmoob pab tau nyiaj ntau kawg tiamsis nws coj mus siv tsis muaj paus ntsis li. Koj puas xav tias nws muab me ntsis yuav nqeeb ua tsev rau lawv tiamsis feem ntau nws khaws cia hnab kas paus lawm xwb?  Kuv xav li ntawd nawb, poj niam sib pab.

Qhov ob tuaj Laura yog tus uas Kaibxiv cov Hmoob DD tshaj. Lawv cia siab kawg rau nws tabsis nws lub homphiaj yog ntxias kom tau lawv rov mus Nplog xwb vim nws tau sibtw nrog rau Vajxab ne. Nej tsis pom nws sob lus uas nws sau tias Vajxab twv tias cov Hmoob DD yeej yuav tau tuaj Miskas tiamsis Laura ho hais tias Hmoob DD yuav tsum raug xa rov rau  Nplog?  Thaum kawg Laura thiaj hais tias Laura yog tus yeej lawm no laiv. Peb hmoob miskas xav twb tsis txog tias peb kuj tsaug nws dag tib yam li cov Hmoob DD thiab.  Tus neeg limhiam lino tsis tsim nyog peb tham txog thiab qhuas txog nws lawm. Txij hnub no mus cia nws yijmeem ntaus nruas puab luaj seb nws ho mus tau deb npaum twg nawb.
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YAWG TXIVNEEJPABTXIVNEEJ,

KUV YEEJ XAV TIB YAM TIAS NTSHE YUAV MUAJ ME NTSIS LI KOJ HAIS THIAB NTAG!!!

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View PostDr. Qibsiab, on 18 March 2011 - 02:40 PM, said:

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Kuv tsuas hais tau li qhov muaj tseeb xwb, tsis muaj tseeb tsis hais thiaj yog tus neeg tseemceeb meej pem txaus tib neeg ntseeg.

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Koj hais yog kawg mas tus phoojywg Dr. Qibsiab, luag cov neeg kawm siab los yog txiv neej yawg tseem ceeb tuav cai hais  lus,  luag yeej hais muaj paus muaj ntsis tsis lam tau lam tuaj dhia cem tus ub tus no li ub lino.
Koj saib mas cov niag tuaj cem tus ub tus no ua communists yog tib co muaj kwvtij thiab nkauj muam nyob tim Nplog nkaus xwb, tsis tas li lawv yeej ib sij nqa nyiaj txog li $5000-$10000.00 mus txhawb LPDR, tiamsis thaum rov los txog Meskas mas ho ua txuj tuaj cem tus ub tus no ntxeev siab mus tuaj Nplog Liab tog, kom sawvdaws txhob xa nyiaj mus pab cov Hmoob Nplog Liab thiab no, hahahahah, txaus luag dhau vim they don't even know what they're talking about....seb meb!  hmoob tus attitude os.


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Koj puas yog hais kuv los leej twg mas? yog hais kuv no los zoo mas vim kuv tseem tshuav 2 poom beers tos cov qhua tseem ceeb li koj thiab, hos yog koj hais lwm tus xwb no los qhia ncaj es kuv thiaj tsis ua lujtshib yuav kev nawb mog.


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Npawg Exile,

Peb hmoob miskas ces tsuas yog qev luag toj yug yaj luag tais rau ntxhai xwb es tseem muaj YD phav thiab VP phav thiab lov? VP txawm tsis txawj ntawv npaum YD los nco ntsoov tias VP ntse dua thiab nws yog tus muaj txoj koobmoov ua tus coj. Yog YD muab nws txoj kev txawj ntaub ntawv ntawd los pab VP ua tib lub zog xwb ces peb Hmoob yeej mus tau deb dua no tiamsis thaum nws txawj ntawv dua no ces nws ho xav los ua tus coj lawm. Niaj hnub no yog kuv xav tsis yuam kev peb Hmoob tseem muaj ntau tshaj ob phav kasmoos lawm. Yog zoo li no es Hmoob tsis los ua ib pab koom tib lub siab xwb ces yav pem suab Hmoob ntsib teeb meem zoo li yav tag los uas yog Hmoob DD los Hmoob Miskas yuav tsis muaj peevxwm pab tau kiag li vim ib phav pab tawm plaws ntsuab siab nrog koj kev hlub kev tshua kev ncajncees los ib phav yuav tshuav kom plam mus tib yam nkaus. Ntawm kuv tus kheej mas xav tias phaum thaub laus no tseem muaj sia nyob ces Hmoob yeej tsis muaj kev thaj yeeb thaj yaj kiag. Koj puas xav li ntawd thiab npawg Exile?


Npawg Txivneejsibpab

Zoo li twb muaj neeg tuaj cheem koj kom txhob nrog kuv tham no laiv, seb puas xav tham mas? xav tiag los kuv mam tuaj tej koj dua, tiamsis kuv ntshai koj lam swb rau cov niag neeg tsis tseemceeb li kuv xwb laus
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View PostExile, on 24 March 2011 - 01:10 PM, said:

Koj hais yog kawg mas tus phoojywg Dr. Qibsiab, luag cov neeg kawm siab los yog txiv neej yawg tseem ceeb tuav cai hais  lus,  luag yeej hais muaj paus muaj ntsis tsis lam tau lam tuaj dhia cem tus ub tus no li ub lino.
Koj saib mas cov niag tuaj cem tus ub tus no ua communists yog tib co muaj kwvtij thiaj nkauj muam nyob tim Nplog nkaus xwb, tsis tas li lawv yeej ib sij nqa nyiaj txog li $5000-$10000.00 mus txhawb LPDR, tiamsis thaum rov los txog Meskas mas ho ua txuj tuaj cem tus ub tus no ntxeev siab mus tuaj Nplog Liab tog, kom sawvdaws txhob xa nyiaj mus pab cov Hmoob Nplog Liab thiab no, hahahahah, txaus luag dhau vim they don't even know what they're talking about....seb meb!  hmoob tus attitude os.

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tag nrho cov Hmoob Miskas puas yog Nplog Liab cov yeeb ncuab? Lub sij hawm thaum peb tab tom khiav tawm tebchaws, yog Nplog Liab pom peb lawv tua ib txhia tseg ib txhia los?  cov tsis tuag tsuas yog khiav dim thiab lawv tsis pom xwb tsaws li kuv xav naj.  Txhua tus Hmoob khiav tawm tebchaws Nplog Liab yeej hu tias Hmoob VP no laiv. Niaj hnub no los lawv yeej pub peb rov mus xyuas tebchaws Nplog los tsuas yog cov neeg tsis tshua paub tab xwb. Cov Hmoob Miskas uas ib txwm yog qub nom qub tswv puag thaum tebchaws tsis tau tawg lawv yeej tsis kam txawm yog npau suav txog xwb los twb tsis tau.  Tabsis YD twb yog ib tug tub txawj nyob rau xammaim ntawd es ua cas Nplog Liab ho yuav tsis chim rau nws kiag li thiab tseem txais tos nws zoo li huab tais xwb es koj xav tias YD yog Hmoob VP los Hmoob NPlog Liab maj?  Thiab YD tuaj txog lub tebchaws Miskas no nws puas haum nrog VP li. Thees thib tias YD twb yog ib tug uas VP txhawb nws tuaj kawm txawj kawm ntse rau sab ntuj no thiab thaum nws txawj ntse lawm tsim nyog nws yuav  los nrog nais phoos vp sib pab tsim kho hmoob kom haum xeeb tiam sis nws ho tseem los ua nws ib phav lawm thiab.   Thaum kawg vp yuav rov mus nplog no ces Nplog Liab hais tias vp mus ces tsuas yog mus nyob nws lub txim tuag xwb no tiamsis YD ho tau txais kev caw mus li nws yog ib tug nom tseem ceeb heev rau lawv.  Tej no xwb twb qhia tau tias YD yog Nplog Liab ib tug* tsaws nqaij lawm no es koj tseem tsis ntseeg thiab....

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View Postpah, on 24 March 2011 - 02:32 PM, said:

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tag nrho cov Hmoob Miskas puas yog Nplog Liab cov yeeb ncuab? Lub sij hawm thaum peb tab tom khiav tawm tebchaws, yog Nplog Liab pom peb lawv tua ib txhia tseg ib txhia los?  cov tsis tuag tsuas yog khiav dim thiab lawv tsis pom xwb tsaws li kuv xav naj.  Txhua tus Hmoob khiav tawm tebchaws Nplog Liab yeej hu tias Hmoob VP no laiv. Niaj hnub no los lawv yeej pub peb rov mus xyuas tebchaws Nplog los tsuas yog cov neeg tsis tshua paub tab xwb. Cov Hmoob Miskas uas ib txwm yog qub nom qub tswv puag thaum tebchaws tsis tau tawg lawv yeej tsis kam txawm yog npau suav txog xwb los twb tsis tau.  Tabsis YD twb yog ib tug tub txawj nyob rau xammaim ntawd es ua cas Nplog Liab ho yuav tsis chim rau nws kiag li thiab tseem txais tos nws zoo li huab tais xwb es koj xav tias YD yog Hmoob VP los Hmoob NPlog Liab maj?  Thiab YD tuaj txog lub tebchaws Miskas no nws puas haum nrog VP li. Thees thib tias YD twb yog ib tug uas VP txhawb nws tuaj kawm txawj kawm ntse rau sab ntuj no thiab thaum nws txawj ntse lawm tsim nyog nws yuav  los nrog nais phoos vp sib pab tsim kho hmoob kom haum xeeb tiam sis nws ho tseem los ua nws ib phav lawm thiab.   Thaum kawg vp yuav rov mus nplog no ces Nplog Liab hais tias vp mus ces tsuas yog mus nyob nws lub txim tuag xwb no tiamsis YD ho tau txais kev caw mus li nws yog ib tug nom tseem ceeb heev rau lawv.  Tej no xwb twb qhia tau tias YD yog Nplog Liab ib tug* tsaws nqaij lawm no es koj tseem tsis ntseeg thiab....
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Tag nrho hmoob Meskas puas yog Nplog Liab cov yeeb ncuab?....kuv cia lawv los teb koj vim kuv tsis nrog lawv nyob ces tsis paub teb koj nawb.
Yeej muaj li koj hais mas lub caij sawvdaws khiav luag yeej tua neeg tiag mas vim luag yeej tsis pub sawvdaws khiav...tsis paub zoo tias lawv ntshai ib tsam xiam kasmoos los yog lawv ntshai ib tsam pejxeem khiav tag es lawv tsis muaj pej xeem kav nas.
"Tiamsis zoo li qhov luag tsis pub yus khiav ntawd yog  zoo li luag tseem tshua yus thiab laiv", tam li kuv xav os.
Kuv mas ntshai ib tsam luag celi ordered kom yus cov Hmoob including cov 30 xyoo tawm kom tag hauv lub teb chaws Nplog mas ho yov muaj kev tu siab dhau thiab no.
Lawv yov hu peb ua Hmoob VP thiab Hmoob xavtus los tsuav lawv muaj zog xwb mas npawg pah aw, tsis mob kuv li os. Peb twb muab lawv hu ua Hmoob Liab/Nplog Liab thiab ne ces caus kas mas yom.

Lub tebchaws Nplog tshuaj lom neeg ntau npaud es kuv xav paub seb ua cas cov qub Nom nrog luag sib nyas tau 15+xyoo pheej yov xav rov mus taug kev tim tej taj laj xaub ua tus dabtsi mas, tsis ntshai tau caij qab plab dav hlaus rov los tsev los licas maj?..oib!

Kuv yog GVP mas LPDR muab carpet liab pua tuaj txog ntua Santa Ana thov kom kuv rov mus xyuas teb chaws Nplog kuv twb tsis kam mus nas, ua cas pheej yov ntshaw mus tsuj lub teb chaws Nplog ntawd ua tus dabtsi thiab?

Hais txog DYD!!!!!! :onionheadfake7:  :onionheadfake6:
kuv analysed mus lino: Thaum tebchaws tawg yog DYD tsis xub khiav tuaj ces nws yeej taug Phab Nyas Touby lawv tib txoj kev thiab, i know there's no exception.
Vim licas LPDR ho pub thiab caw DYD rov mus xyuas Laos?
Vim tias nws tsis yog ib tug tub r og nrog luag muaj kev dub muag li cov qub tub r og, or/and nws tsis involved/supported kev kubxaj nrog GVP&Associates, yog li lub teb chaws Nplog tamsis no tsis muaj tsov muaj r og lawm luag thiaj pom thiab ntseeg tau tias DYD yov tsis mus tsim tau kev kub ntxhov rau luag lub tebchaws.
Tsis tag lintawd xwb: tejzaum luag pom tias politcal diplomacy important heev rau LPDR thiab Hmoob VP vim Hmoob VP los kuj tseem tshuav kwv tshuav tij nyob Laos coob heev, hos LPDR kuj needs Hmoob Meskas support NTR kom Hmoob VP tau rov mus pab txhim kho lub teb chaws Nplog thiab txhawb nqa cov neeg Nplog kom muaj vaj muaj tsev zoo thiab kev hlag luam.

(to be continued next time about GVP vs DYD)


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View PostExile, on 24 March 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

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Tag nrho hmoob Meskas puas yog Nplog Liab cov yeeb ncuab?....kuv cia lawv los teb koj vim kuv tsis nrog lawv nyob ces tsis paub teb koj nawb.
Yeej muaj li koj hais mas lub caij sawvdaws khiav luag yeej tua neeg tiag mas vim luag yeej tsis pub sawvdaws khiav...tsis paub zoo tias lawv ntshai ib tsam xiam kasmoos los yog lawv ntshai ib tsam pejxeem khiav tag es lawv tsis muaj pej xeem kav nas.
"Tiamsis zoo li qhov luag tsis pub yus khiav ntawd yog  zoo li luag tseem tshua yus thiab laiv", tam li kuv xav os.
Kuv mas ntshai ib tsam luag celi ordered kom yus cov Hmoob including cov 30 xyoo tawm kom tag hauv lub teb chaws Nplog mas ho yov muaj kev tu siab dhau thiab no.
Lawv yov hu peb ua Hmoob VP thiab Hmoob xavtus los tsuav lawv muaj zog xwb mas npawg pah aw, tsis mob kuv li os. Peb twb muab lawv hu ua Hmoob Liab/Nplog Liab thiab ne ces caus kas mas yom.

Lub tebchaws Nplog tshuaj lom neeg ntau npaud es kuv xav paub seb ua cas cov qub Nom nrog luag sib nyas tau 15+xyoo pheej yov xav rov mus taug kev tim tej taj laj xaub ua tus dabtsi mas, tsis ntshai tau caij qab plab dav hlaus rov los tsev los licas maj?..oib!

Kuv yog GVP mas LPDR muab carpet liab pua tuaj txog ntua Santa Ana thov kom kuv rov mus xyuas teb chaws Nplog kuv twb tsis kam mus nas, ua cas pheej yov ntshaw mus tsuj lub teb chaws Nplog ntawd ua tus dabtsi thiab?

Hais txog DYD!!!!!! :onionheadfake7:  :onionheadfake6:
kuv analysed mus lino: Thaum tebchaws tawg yog DYD tsis xub khiav tuaj ces nws yeej taug Phab Nyas Touby lawv tib txoj kev thiab, i know there's no exception.
Vim licas LPDR ho pub thiab caw DYD rov mus xyuas Laos?
Vim tias nws tsis yog ib tug tub r og nrog luag muaj kev dub muag li cov qub tub r og, or/and nws tsis involved/supported kev kubxaj nrog GVP&Associates, yog li lub teb chaws Nplog tamsis no tsis muaj tsov muaj r og lawm luag thiaj pom thiab ntseeg tau tias DYD yov tsis mus tsim tau kev kub ntxhov rau luag lub tebchaws.
Tsis tag lintawd xwb: tejzaum luag pom tias politcal diplomacy important heev rau LPDR thiab Hmoob VP vim Hmoob VP los kuj tseem tshuav kwv tshuav tij nyob Laos coob heev, hos LPDR kuj needs Hmoob Meskas support NTR kom Hmoob VP tau rov mus pab txhim kho lub teb chaws Nplog thiab txhawb nqa cov neeg Nplog kom muaj vaj muaj tsev zoo thiab kev hlag luam.

(to be continued next time about GVP vs DYD)

Kwv npawg Exile,

txawm kuv hais tau yuam kev los thov koj zam txim pub nawb.  Muab piv xam tias Npawg A txiv, tus uas yug Npawg A kiag, pab nws thiab txhawb nws thaum kawg nws txawj ntse paub ntaub ntawv zoo. Npawg A leej txiv mas cia cia siab tias zaum no kuv tus tub yuav los nrog kuv noj ib taig mov koom ib rab diav ua ke ntag no laiv.  Tiamsis neeg laus noj qhau tsis nkuam plaub devlaus tsis zov loog zoo lawm ces muaj ntau zaus nws tau hais lus yuam kev thiab coj tsi tus li thaum hluas lawm.  Thaum Npawg A pom zoo li no lawm, nws cia li nrug deb zuj zus ntawm nws txiv thiab cia li tsis quav ntsej txog nws tab txawm muaj mob dias hau los nws tsis ntxhov siab txog.  

Npawg Exile ntawm kuv tus kheej mas xav tias txawm zoo thiab phem los nws yeej yog tus muaj txiaj ntsim rau kuv thiab txawm ua txhaum ntau npaum licas rau kuv los kuv yuav maj mam qhia kom mus rau qhov yog. tsi tas li ntawd xwb yuav nrog nws puag ciajdab mus kom txog hnub uas tsis muaj nws thiab tsis muaj kuv  mas thiaj tag. NTAWM KOJ NE KOJ HO PUAS XAV TIAS QHOV UAS NPAWG A UA LI NTAWM RAU NWS TXIV YOG LOS TSIS YOG?

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View Postpah, on 24 March 2011 - 08:19 PM, said:

Kwv npawg Exile,

txawm kuv hais tau yuam kev los thov koj zam txim pub nawb.  Muab piv xam tias Npawg A txiv, tus uas yug Npawg A kiag, pab nws thiab txhawb nws thaum kawg nws txawj ntse paub ntaub ntawv zoo. Npawg A leej txiv mas cia cia siab tias zaum no kuv tus tub yuav los nrog kuv noj ib taig mov koom ib rab diav ua ke ntag no laiv.  Tiamsis neeg laus noj qhau tsis nkuam plaub devlaus tsis zov loog zoo lawm ces muaj ntau zaus nws tau hais lus yuam kev thiab coj tsi tus li thaum hluas lawm.  Thaum Npawg A pom zoo li no lawm, nws cia li nrug deb zuj zus ntawm nws txiv thiab cia li tsis quav ntsej txog nws tab txawm muaj mob dias hau los nws tsis ntxhov siab txog.  

Npawg Exile ntawm kuv tus kheej mas xav tias txawm zoo thiab phem los nws yeej yog tus muaj txiaj ntsim rau kuv thiab txawm ua txhaum ntau npaum licas rau kuv los kuv yuav maj mam qhia kom mus rau qhov yog. tsi tas li ntawd xwb yuav nrog nws puag ciajdab mus kom txog hnub uas tsis muaj nws thiab tsis muaj kuv  mas thiaj tag. NTAWM KOJ NE KOJ HO PUAS XAV TIAS QHOV UAS NPAWG A UA LI NTAWM RAU NWS TXIV YOG LOS TSIS YOG?
Ok cia kuv rov tuaj hais txog qhov DYD tig pob tw rov rau GVP seb puas yog li kuv qhov analysis thiab notice nawb npawg  pah.
Yog yov hais li koj hais ces thaub A yeej guilty 99.999%, tsis yog GVP thiaj chim xwb, txhua tus niam txiv thiab sponsor yeej chim tib yam vim yus yug ib tug menyuam loj thiab tso nws kawm txawj es nws celi tsis txhawb yus sab es celi mus tuaj lwm tus tog los yog nws yuav nws siab xwb.
Qhov DYD cheem kom GVP txhob rov mus ua teb chaws mas kuj muaj benefits rau both parties thiab yog sawvdaws ua tib zoo soj ntsuam los txij thaum GVP&Associates pib lawv txoj dej nug los txog ntua hnub lawv 12 leeg raug plaub.

DYD yeej muaj intention zoo thiab thiaj cheem GVP vim nws txawm tsis yog ib tug WAR HERO los nws yog ib tug EDUCATOR uas muaj kev txawj ntse rau kev analysis txog kam teb chaws thiab environment(kuv yov tsis hais details  ntau), tiamsis muaj ntau tus qub nom including cov nom Nplog tog sabxis thiab Huab Tais tsev neeg tseem muaj zog thiab ntseeg tau tias kev mus kubxaj possibly xwb thiaj tas vim sawvdaws tseem nyuam qhuav tawm tebchaws xwb ces muaj li 70% tseem yog lawv tej qub neeg qub thabham khuam tas nyob Laos.
Tiamsis lawv nco tsis txog tias kev swb teb chaws zaum no tsis yog swb rau Pathet Lao, tiamsis swb rau North Vietnamese, Chinese, thiab Soviet.  Tsis tas li xwb, US Government twb mus kos ntawv nrog cov teb Chaws no tias Meskas yov thim SouthEast Asia permanently tsis thov ua rrog nrog lawv ntxiv tsuav lawv xa Meskas cov POWs kom tas rov rau Meskas xwb---Meskas thiaj muaj tsab Bill Neutrallity Act.

Cov qub Nom hais los mas twb tsis yog violated Neutrallity Act, lawv tseem violated US Government tus Law/Constitution qees vim ib tug neeg nyob Meskas ua ntej yov sawv ua rrog tau rau lwm lub teb chaws yuav tsum yog CONGRESS thiab MR. PRESIDENT thiaj muaj cai declare WAR nkaus xwb(no one else).

Kev cheem GVP zaum no yog ib qho muaj txiaj ntsim rau GVP tiamsis qhov txiaj ntsim tig mus ua political enermy rau nkawv vim zoo li koj hais tas , yus tso nws txawj es nws tseem tsis kam tuaj yus sab-nyshe nws yog LIAB lawm ,qhov tseeb tiag yog DYD twb pom tau tej yam yov tshwm sim rau GVP tus legacy es nws thiaj cheem ua luaj.
Muaj ntau tus neeg cov qub nom tseem muab DYD tis ua neeg phem los txog niaj hnub no qhov DYD tsis npuab lawv sab.  
Kuv xav mas zoo heev qhov DYD tsis npuab lawv sab, yog DYD tseem npuab lawv sab es cia DYD, GVP, thiab cov qub nom coj peb cov Hmoob Meskas rov mus nyob Phou Bia mas peb tuag twb yov tas laus niaj hnub no os---ntshe tej zaum koj thiab kuv twb mus thawj thiab ntev lawm los tsis paub thiab os yom.

Kuv xav tias txawm Mr. A yog tub los thaum nws pom nws txiv yov mus dhia dej Naj Khoom ces Mr. A yov tsum pab saved nws txim mas thiaj yog txiv tub  txawj sib hlub tiag, hos twb pom nws txiv yov dhia lawm hauv pas dej tob muaj zaj los tseem txhawb ceev nrooj tias,"dhia kiag lawm hauv mas txiv"..tus neeg ntawd yog ntxias kom nws txiv mus txhob los xwb.

Kuv tseem pab chim rau cov neeg support kom GVP mus kubxaj, yog txhob muaj cov neeg txhawb nws qab ces nws twb tsis raug kaw kom xiam nws lub koob lub npe thiab.

I think DYD's decision to stop GVP is valuable heev, thiab kuv thov qhuas nws lub vision pom txog tej yam yov tsis zoo rau GVP thiab peb cov kwvtij hmoob nyob havzoov kev ploj tuag tau 35+ xyoo.


Ua tsaug ntau koj lam nyeem seb puas yog los tsis yog thiab vim lub caij ntawd los kuv tus kheej tseem yog cov quaavv tsw tog twg tsis paub zoo thiab ces thiaj hais tsis tas tej ntsiab history.


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Yawg Pah, thiab yawg exile.

Neb sau ntau nyeem mob 2 qhov muag kuv tsis nyeem tas.   Kuv lam los txais cua me ntsis rau neb.

kuv xav mas peb tsum txhob tham tham txog tej niag tswv yim qub qub dhau tas los lawm.

Yog neb yuav tham mas los sib tawm tswv yim seb peb Hmoob yuav ua li cas txij li tag kis mus thiaj yuav vam meej thiaj muaj tshais hmo noj xwb.  Leej twg yog pheej tham yav tswv yim qub qub dhau los xwb ces txhais tau tias tus ntawd tseem r u a m heev.

Neb txawm yuav tham li cas los tsis tau hauj lwm lawm.  Yog peb yuav piav yav tas los xwb mas kuv pom ib qho tseem ceeb tshaj qhov tseem ceeb lawm yog li nov,  xyov cas thaum 1974 DYD twb tau los ua ib tug Qhab Nab Paj Xoom Kas moos thiab khuv xim tias ua cas DYD ho tsis nyob twj ywm txhob khiav mas yuav muaj kuv phem ntsim rau peb Hmoob heev.  tsam no ces lig dhau qhov lig lawm mam mus thawj luag, yus twb yog Hmoob thawj tug Dr.  diam tsam no ho mus raug tus nyuag Nais Xiv Nais Cas xaj yus no mas txaj muag heev, thiab peb tsoom Hmoob poob ntsej muag heev.   Tsuas muaj tib txoj kev uas khuv xim cas nws tsis nyob twj ywm mas ntshe nws twb pab tau peb cov Hmoob hav Zoov yuav tsis tuag coob ua luaj.   Thiab yog nws tsis txhob khiav mas nws twb pab tau cov Hmoob tsis khiav coob tuaj mus txawv teb chaws.   Kuv xav mas khuv xim tas los khuv xim thiab, vim lub caij ntawd nws tsawg ib zag tswv yim lawm es cia li lam khiav tsis muaj qab ntxhiab dab tsi, yog lam nyob mas tej zaum twb tau ib tug nom loj heev lawm thiab nawj.

Tab sis tu siab tias peb txawm tuaj tham li cas los peb puav leej yog tib co niag neeg Exile xwb ces tsis txhob tham ntxiv lawm os yawg Exile thiab yawg Pah aw, nkim sij hawm xwb os.

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View PostGuest, on 26 March 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:

Yawg Pah, thiab yawg exile.

Neb sau ntau nyeem mob 2 qhov muag kuv tsis nyeem tas.   Kuv lam los txais cua me ntsis rau neb.

kuv xav mas peb tsum txhob tham tham txog tej niag tswv yim qub qub dhau tas los lawm.

Yog neb yuav tham mas los sib tawm tswv yim seb peb Hmoob yuav ua li cas txij li tag kis mus thiaj yuav vam meej thiaj muaj tshais hmo noj xwb.  Leej twg yog pheej tham yav tswv yim qub qub dhau los xwb ces txhais tau tias tus ntawd tseem r u a m heev.

Neb txawm yuav tham li cas los tsis tau hauj lwm lawm.  Yog peb yuav piav yav tas los xwb mas kuv pom ib qho tseem ceeb tshaj qhov tseem ceeb lawm yog li nov,  xyov cas thaum 1974 DYD twb tau los ua ib tug Qhab Nab Paj Xoom Kas moos thiab khuv xim tias ua cas DYD ho tsis nyob twj ywm txhob khiav mas yuav muaj kuv phem ntsim rau peb Hmoob heev.  tsam no ces lig dhau qhov lig lawm mam mus thawj luag, yus twb yog Hmoob thawj tug Dr.  diam tsam no ho mus raug tus nyuag Nais Xiv Nais Cas xaj yus no mas txaj muag heev, thiab peb tsoom Hmoob poob ntsej muag heev.   Tsuas muaj tib txoj kev uas khuv xim cas nws tsis nyob twj ywm mas ntshe nws twb pab tau peb cov Hmoob hav Zoov yuav tsis tuag coob ua luaj.   Thiab yog nws tsis txhob khiav mas nws twb pab tau cov Hmoob tsis khiav coob tuaj mus txawv teb chaws.   Kuv xav mas khuv xim tas los khuv xim thiab, vim lub caij ntawd nws tsawg ib zag tswv yim lawm es cia li lam khiav tsis muaj qab ntxhiab dab tsi, yog lam nyob mas tej zaum twb tau ib tug nom loj heev lawm thiab nawj.

Tab sis tu siab tias peb txawm tuaj tham li cas los peb puav leej yog tib co niag neeg Exile xwb ces tsis txhob tham ntxiv lawm os yawg Exile thiab yawg Pah aw, nkim sij hawm xwb os.
Oib...koj mas yom, tos pheej yov ua guest xwb los yeej tsis meej pem tiag lau.  Koj twb tias r u a m thiaj tham tej tswv yim qub no ne es koj ho tseem rov mus hais txog thaum 1974 thiab?
Ntshe yov tau nrog koj sib dob plaub hau thiab hos....


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View PostExile, on 26 March 2011 - 11:24 AM, said:

Ok cia kuv rov tuaj hais txog qhov DYD tig pob tw rov rau GVP seb puas yog li kuv qhov analysis thiab notice nawb npawg  pah.
Yog yov hais li koj hais ces thaub A yeej guilty 99.999%, tsis yog GVP thiaj chim xwb, txhua tus niam txiv thiab sponsor yeej chim tib yam vim yus yug ib tug menyuam loj thiab tso nws kawm txawj es nws celi tsis txhawb yus sab es celi mus tuaj lwm tus tog los yog nws yuav nws siab xwb.
Qhov DYD cheem kom GVP txhob rov mus ua teb chaws mas kuj muaj benefits rau both parties thiab yog sawvdaws ua tib zoo soj ntsuam los txij thaum GVP&Associates pib lawv txoj dej nug los txog ntua hnub lawv 12 leeg raug plaub.

DYD yeej muaj intention zoo thiab thiaj cheem GVP vim nws txawm tsis yog ib tug WAR HERO los nws yog ib tug EDUCATOR uas muaj kev txawj ntse rau kev analysis txog kam teb chaws thiab environment(kuv yov tsis hais details  ntau), tiamsis muaj ntau tus qub nom including cov nom Nplog tog sabxis thiab Huab Tais tsev neeg tseem muaj zog thiab ntseeg tau tias kev mus kubxaj possibly xwb thiaj tas vim sawvdaws tseem nyuam qhuav tawm tebchaws xwb ces muaj li 70% tseem yog lawv tej qub neeg qub thabham khuam tas nyob Laos.
Tiamsis lawv nco tsis txog tias kev swb teb chaws zaum no tsis yog swb rau Pathet Lao, tiamsis swb rau North Vietnamese, Chinese, thiab Soviet.  Tsis tas li xwb, US Government twb mus kos ntawv nrog cov teb Chaws no tias Meskas yov thim SouthEast Asia permanently tsis thov ua rrog nrog lawv ntxiv tsuav lawv xa Meskas cov POWs kom tas rov rau Meskas xwb---Meskas thiaj muaj tsab Bill Neutrallity Act.

Cov qub Nom hais los mas twb tsis yog violated Neutrallity Act, lawv tseem violated US Government tus Law/Constitution qees vim ib tug neeg nyob Meskas ua ntej yov sawv ua rrog tau rau lwm lub teb chaws yuav tsum yog CONGRESS thiab MR. PRESIDENT thiaj muaj cai declare WAR nkaus xwb(no one else).

Kev cheem GVP zaum no yog ib qho muaj txiaj ntsim rau GVP tiamsis qhov txiaj ntsim tig mus ua political enermy rau nkawv vim zoo li koj hais tas , yus tso nws txawj es nws tseem tsis kam tuaj yus sab-nyshe nws yog LIAB lawm ,qhov tseeb tiag yog DYD twb pom tau tej yam yov tshwm sim rau GVP tus legacy es nws thiaj cheem ua luaj.
Muaj ntau tus neeg cov qub nom tseem muab DYD tis ua neeg phem los txog niaj hnub no qhov DYD tsis npuab lawv sab.  
Kuv xav mas zoo heev qhov DYD tsis npuab lawv sab, yog DYD tseem npuab lawv sab es cia DYD, GVP, thiab cov qub nom coj peb cov Hmoob Meskas rov mus nyob Phou Bia mas peb tuag twb yov tas laus niaj hnub no os---ntshe tej zaum koj thiab kuv twb mus thawj thiab ntev lawm los tsis paub thiab os yom.

Kuv xav tias txawm Mr. A yog tub los thaum nws pom nws txiv yov mus dhia dej Naj Khoom ces Mr. A yov tsum pab saved nws txim mas thiaj yog txiv tub  txawj sib hlub tiag, hos twb pom nws txiv yov dhia lawm hauv pas dej tob muaj zaj los tseem txhawb ceev nrooj tias,"dhia kiag lawm hauv mas txiv"..tus neeg ntawd yog ntxias kom nws txiv mus txhob los xwb.

Kuv tseem pab chim rau cov neeg support kom GVP mus kubxaj, yog txhob muaj cov neeg txhawb nws qab ces nws twb tsis raug kaw kom xiam nws lub koob lub npe thiab.

I think DYD's decision to stop GVP is valuable heev, thiab kuv thov qhuas nws lub vision pom txog tej yam yov tsis zoo rau GVP thiab peb cov kwvtij hmoob nyob havzoov kev ploj tuag tau 35+ xyoo.


Ua tsaug ntau koj lam nyeem seb puas yog los tsis yog thiab vim lub caij ntawd los kuv tus kheej tseem yog cov quaavv tsw tog twg tsis paub zoo thiab ces thiaj hais tsis tas tej ntsiab history.

Npawg EXile,


Lawv cem cem wb lawm ces tham li no xwb nawb. Txawm zoo licas los peb yuav hloov tsis tau lawm cia lub sijhawm mam hloov thiab qhia qhov tseeb rau pejxeem hmoob nawb...

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View PostTxam, on 17 March 2011 - 08:45 PM, said:

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Cov kwvtij Hmoob,

Kuv xav mas tej zaum nej tseem tsis tau ra txog hais tias cov Hmoob 4,000+ tus raug xa rov qab no yuav muaj impact rau nej lub neej lica?

Cov uas yeej ntawm txoj kev coj cov Hmoob rov qab no los nyob tib lub yia dej kub. Cov sawb ntawm txoj kev txwv coj cov Hmoob no nyob hauv tib lub yai dej kub. Cov niaj hnub mus ua phoojywg nrog Nplog Liab nyob hauv tib lub yia dej kub. Cov Hmoob nyob America thiab lwm lub teb chaws los nyob hauv tib lub ya dej kub. Luag tabtom rauv-taw dej tsis tau pib ov ces sawv daws tseem muaj plus heev. Koj nim hais koj zaj, kuv nim hais kuv zaj. Koj nim muaj ntsej muag khav yuav nrhiav nyiaj mus pab, kuv nim muaj ntsej muag nrhiav luaj-kaub tai diav yuav mus pab. (Dev yav niag kuv phem...) Nplog Liab muaj nyiaj tshaj nej law pai tsawg npaug. Ib xyoo twg Nplog Liab tau txais Foreign Aids tsheej $100 millions los ntawm pej kum Tebchaws los txim kho luag lub Tebchaws.

Cov neeg mus tuav Nplog Liab tes tsi xyuamxim tsis ntev twb yuav mag Nplog Liab tua pov tseg. Cov neeg nyom Nplog Liab luag yeej tsi zam. Cov uas nim khiav rau tom rau tom los luag siv tag ces luag muab nws sawb-lawj. Zaumno yog ib zaug uas yuav muab Hmoob ua kom ti-nkaus txha. Thaum Hmoob tsis muaj Txiv Qhuav txeem raub-qaum lawm ces luag yuav pib ruav puag pem Suav Teb los rau Nplog Teb mus tshwm plaw Tebchaws thib Peb.

Kom nej nco hais tias, thaum chiv-thawj yog dollars inflation nyob America Teb, poob los rau economic nyob America Teb ces ki mus thoob Ntiaj-Teb. Tshuav Suav tib leeg xwb thiaj muaj $5 Trilion surplus. Zaumno, nej nyob leej twg qab-xib-taws? Nej puas tau paub nej tus yeeb ncuab thiab phoojywg yog leej twg tiag?

Nej lam coj kuv cov lus no mus xav. "Nimno nej cov phoojywg ua tswv lag luam rau nej (nyob Nplog Teb) twb pib nrhiav plaub rau nej lawm. Yog thaum twg peb tus Hlob tag sim neej ces Tseem Fwv Koojsam yuav muab ntawm lawv mus kiag." Luag majmam nrhiav plaub rau ib hnub me ntsis xwb nws twb tuav tsis tau nej tej lag luam uas nej mus chiv peev rau nws ua ntawd. Tuav yuav tuag tso yuav pluag. Nej nchuav neej nyob (America) Teb chaws thib Peb mus ua thiaj muaj, tso poj niam me nyuam ua tsuag lam nrhiav hnub no hnub muaj teebmeem phem hauv yus tsev neeg Hmoob txog tseem fwv America. Peb tsoom Hmoob ua yoovntxuav muag. 35 xyoo Nplog Liab tuaj cab tau sawv daws caj dab rov mus ua Nplog Liab qhev. Xav koom zoo nawb tsoom Hmoob.

Vang Xang




Txiv laus Vang Xang,

Koj tsis tas yuav qw thiab tsis tas yuav hem thiab txw kom Hmoob poob siab ntxiv lawm os. Thaum koj mus tim Thaib teb rov los, koj twb los hais rau peb tias koj mus tau haujlwm tseem ceeb heev. Koj twb mus xyuas tau ib qho chaw (av) yuav coj Hmoob DD mus nyob no ne.

Kuv hais me ntsi txog qhov peb cia siab tias tsoom Fwv Mekas yuav txais ib feem ntawm cov Hmoob DD tuaj. Koj twb take credit ua ntej hais tias koj paub ua ntej lawm. Koj twv kuv hais tias yog Hmoob DD tau tuaj Mekas ces kuv yog tus swb, yog lawv rov qab mus nplog ces kuvyog tus yeej. Qhov no koj txiav koj txim rau kuv.

Zaum no Hmoob DD rov qab tag, lawv tsis muaj teebmeem, koj txawm siv yuav rov hem thiab nrhiav lub tswv yim los ua kom Hmoob ntxhov siab es kom Hmoob ntshaw koj kev pab? Yog koj yuav pab ces muab koj cov nyiaj mus yuav av rau lawv ua liaj ua teb, yuav ris tsho rau lawv hnav, ua tsev rau lawv nyob xwb los ma.

Nej tej tswv yim los hem Hmoob yog ib lub tswv yim ua kom Hmoob ntshai es cia siab rau nej li yav tag 35 xyoo dhau los xwb ne.

Koj hais yog lawm, yog tias lawv rov mus txog tid es, Vang Xang group tseem niaj hnub mus hem lawv tias Nplog tabtom rhaub dej Kub yuav Hlab lawv ces kawg lawv ntshai, lawv khiav dua xwb. Thaum lawv khiav dua ces Vang Xang group yuav rov muaj suab muaj npe dua?

Yog Vang Xang group tseem niaj hnub mus hem lawv, mus txw lawv ua phem ces yuav raug tsoom Fwv Nplog ntes kaw, ces Vang Xang group thiaj muaj haujlwm ua?

Xyuam xim nawb, tsoom fwv Nplog xamphaj cov Hmoob Dej Dawb tag lawm hais tias yog leejtwg tseem koom tes nrog lwm tus tsim kev kub ntxhov ces raug ntes kaw xwb.

Hmoob Mekas and Vang Xab, xyuam xim nawb mog. 35 xyoo dhau los, muaj ib tsab xov tuaj tim Nplog teb tuaj hais txog Hmoob raug tsim txom, nej sau ib lwm nyiaj thoob Mekas teb. Nej ib tug neeg yuav travel mus tim Thaib teb ib zaug, nej sau ib lwm nyiaj mas nws thiaj mus nqa tau ib qho me me news los rau peb Hmoob Mekas. Tabsi, cov news nej nqa los mas kim dhau lawm.

Please, txhob muab Hmoob DD thiab Hmoob Nplog (qub Hmoob Vaj Pao) los muag yuav nyiaj ntxiv lawm mog.

Laura


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Yog hunb twg sawv daws sib txeeb muab yus lub hwj chim txo kom qis tshaj mas hmoob thiaj yuav sib kho tau tsis li ces ham tseem piv tsis tau yav dhau lo me me li.

Txawm yuav kawm siab npaum cas los kev kawm ntawv ntawd ua tsis tau rau leej twg ntse tsuas yog paub tob rau yam nws kawm xwb tsis tas li yim kawm yim taub haus loj nyias khav nyias zaj yog tshaj lawm thiab . Raws kuv experience pom los mas tsis muaj ib tug kam mloog ib tug, Cov laus los tsuas tias yus laus dua da dej kub ua ntej yus zaj thiaj yog etc.

Kuv xav mas cov laus lawv yeej ib txwm nrog nplog nyob paub nplog cwj pwm uas yog sab nruab nrog zoo tsim nyog cov hluas muaj kev kawm mloog lawv cov lus thiaj muaj kev xyuam xwm uas yuav ua dab tsis rau yav tom ntej thiaj tsis yuam kev. Cov laus los tsim nyog mloog cov hluas uas lawv muaj kev kawm paub txog social sab nrauv zoo uas yuav coj mus adjust rau txoj luag hauj lwm li cas thiaj mus tau zoo tsis yuam kev ntxiv.

Neeg niam no txawj(txawj khav theeb xwb) xwb tsis ntse
Cov laus los tseem tsis tau ntse txaus thiaj tsis kam mloog luag cov txawj

Lo lus ntse ntawm kuv tus kheej mas yuav tsum yog xyuam xwm thoob tsib xav rau txhua sab xav rau sab phem zoo uas muaj opportunity happen, nriav kev paub ntawm txhua tus ib ncig nrog rau txhua lub tswv yim nrog rau reason ntawm lub tswv yim tib si mam plain seb zaj twg yog zaj uas muaj positive thiab benefite rau yus cov tib neeg tshaj mam li take action thiab yuav tsum yog sib koom siab ua good team work tsis yog sib txeeb ua leader li no. nyias yuav tsum paub nyias position thiab muaj kev sib fwm ntawm each other thiab txhua lub tswv yim. Qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws mas yog muaj tib lub hom phiaj uas yog kev xav sib pab rau yus cov tib neeg tiag tiag uas muab lub npe ua nom ntawd tso pov tseg kom tau ua ntej. Kev yuav yog hu tau ua tus coj no yog hu los ntawm tes dej num uas saib sab twg tuaj los tsuas poob rau sab positive xwb thiaj tsim nyog. Kuv tseem tsis tau pom ib tug hmoob zoo li no uas kuv tus kheej yuav cia siab rau tias hmoob kuj ntse lawm thiab tsim nyog yuav pab tau hmoob, yuav ua hmoob tus coj tau.

Thov txim cov uas nyeem kuv cov lus uas ho yuav muaj kev txob siab ntawd kuv tsuas hais lus me nyuam yaus raws kuv kev xav xwb yog lo twg tsis zoo los pab qhia tau.
Ua tsaug ua ntej
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    Nyob zoo txais tos sawv daws los ua phooj ywg :)

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View PostHMOOBLEEJTUB, on 18 March 2011 - 01:23 PM, said:

COV PHOOJ YWG

NEJ TXAWM YUAV HAIS LI CAS LOS XIJ, TAB SIS KUV TSUAS XAV PAUB TIAS
VWJ MAIS DUA TWG LAWM NE?? CAS HO TSIS MUAJ TUS MUS TAUG VUE MAIS QAB LI
THAUM XA TWB MUAJ TUS XA THAUM PLOJ NO HO CUAG SUAV TXO YIAS TSIS MUAJ TUS
NTAB NTWS TXOG LI???


Bro yog yuav hais txog vwjmais no yuav yog kev rhuav nws los sis ib tug hmoob lawm thiab, kev nws ploj los yog nws tsis ntseeg tej laus kev paub nplog cwj pwm uas yog ib qho lesson zoo rau peb cov hluas uas tsuas txawej xwb tsis ntse ntag.
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View PostHmoobUSA, on 20 March 2011 - 07:48 PM, said:

Hmoob mus nyiag yees tau cov Hmoob DD uas raug xav rov mus nyob rau lub zos Phon Kham, Nplog tsuas dag Hmoob mus luaj Nplog cov hav zoov ces muab rau Hmoob ua teb ib cim xwb twb yuav rov muab rau Nplog Cog Ntoo Yas. Nej xav tias ua li Laura thiab Nplog ua no yog ncaj thiab yeej li Laura hais no lod? Qhov no yog ib qhov siab phem tshaj uas yog Hmoob rov ua rau Hmoob kobhuam. Yam Laura lawv ua no tsuas yog ua kom zoo rau lawv tuskheej xwb tsis yog ua kom zoo rau Hmoob.

Nyob rau tamsim no tim Nplog teb sab uas Hmoob nyob Phonsawan, Xienkhuag, Moos Cab mas nyuj thiab twm tuag sib laub sib lug Hmoob tsis pom qab yuav ua licas. Yog muab xav los ces tejzaum yog Nplog muab chemical mus lom Hmoob Havzoov los yog sab tebchaws uas Hmoob nyob kom Hmoob tuag tej tsiaj ntawd mus haus dej thiab noj zaub tau chemical lawv thiaj tuag npaum li ntawd. Qee zaus tsiaj tuag ua ntej neeg mam li tuag lawv qab los tsis paub sim cia saib mus ntxiv seb tom ntej no cov Hmoob uas nyob thaj tsam ntawd seb lawv ho puas muaj mob dabtsi tshwmsim licas.


Tijlaug cov lus koj hais kuv qhov me me thiab mas, muaj ib tug kwv tij hmoob DD uas raug xa rov qab nws raug txim txom sab heev nws ua tiag khiav rov los rau tim thaib no mus nrog kuv ib tug kwv tij nyob nws yeej piav tias cov txiv neej uas ntse tsawv yeej tsis nyob tag lawm kuv tsuas hais me me li no support koj cov lus.

Kev uas xav cov hmoob dd rov qab tsis yog ib yam hauv kev zoo li tiam sis tej zaum kuj tsis muaj hauv kev tawm zoo dua ntxiv lawm los kuj muaj. Vim yog mekas txais ib co mus cov hmoob nplog uas tsis yog hloob coobfab uas xav mus nplog ntawd khiav tuaj zom saws ntxiv vim xav mus mekas ua rau nyuaj rau luag lub teb chaws thaib between relationship ntawm Thaibteb thiab Nplog teb, Yog hmoob tej coj muaj peev xwm tiag tiag lawv mus nyiag kom tau cov uas yog hmoob caub fab tiag tiag coj los kom meej no kuv xav tias mekas yuav rov tos lawv yam muaj nuj nqis ntag.

Tsis tas yuav coj mus zais rau ib qho nrhia kev yug tiam sis hais tawm kiag los yeej tsis txhaum. thaib kiag los yog paub meej lawm no lawv yuav muaj moral thiab tsis xa pawg no mus tuag yog lawv paub meej lawm tiag tiag. hos yog sib xyaw li cov hmoob dd ntawd uas 80-90% yog hmoob nplog xav mus mekas khiav los xwb ces hmoob cov coj txhua pawg yog tus swb rau txhua sab lawm ntag uas ua dab tsis tsis meej pem tsis xyuam xwm, tus xav pab yus los muaj weak point pab tsis kawg, pab tsis tau yam lub siab xav.
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View Postpah, on 24 March 2011 - 02:32 PM, said:

Exile,
tag nrho cov Hmoob Miskas puas yog Nplog Liab cov yeeb ncuab? Lub sij hawm thaum peb tab tom khiav tawm tebchaws, yog Nplog Liab pom peb lawv tua ib txhia tseg ib txhia los? cov tsis tuag tsuas yog khiav dim thiab lawv tsis pom xwb tsaws li kuv xav naj. Txhua tus Hmoob khiav tawm tebchaws Nplog Liab yeej hu tias Hmoob VP no laiv. Niaj hnub no los lawv yeej pub peb rov mus xyuas tebchaws Nplog los tsuas yog cov neeg tsis tshua paub tab xwb. Cov Hmoob Miskas uas ib txwm yog qub nom qub tswv puag thaum tebchaws tsis tau tawg lawv yeej tsis kam txawm yog npau suav txog xwb los twb tsis tau. Tabsis YD twb yog ib tug tub txawj nyob rau xammaim ntawd es ua cas Nplog Liab ho yuav tsis chim rau nws kiag li thiab tseem txais tos nws zoo li huab tais xwb es koj xav tias YD yog Hmoob VP los Hmoob NPlog Liab maj? Thiab YD tuaj txog lub tebchaws Miskas no nws puas haum nrog VP li. Thees thib tias YD twb yog ib tug uas VP txhawb nws tuaj kawm txawj kawm ntse rau sab ntuj no thiab thaum nws txawj ntse lawm tsim nyog nws yuav los nrog nais phoos vp sib pab tsim kho hmoob kom haum xeeb tiam sis nws ho tseem los ua nws ib phav lawm thiab. Thaum kawg vp yuav rov mus nplog no ces Nplog Liab hais tias vp mus ces tsuas yog mus nyob nws lub txim tuag xwb no tiamsis YD ho tau txais kev caw mus li nws yog ib tug nom tseem ceeb heev rau lawv. Tej no xwb twb qhia tau tias YD yog Nplog Liab ib tug* tsaws nqaij lawm no es koj tseem tsis ntseeg thiab....

Tijlaug koj hais muaj tseeb mas kuv txiv tsuas yog ib nyuag qub soddior xwb lawb twb nrhiav tsis tseg, tsis tas li pwb twb los ua neeg thaib lawm thiab twb laus lawm kuv niam thiab txiv nkawv nrog ib co kwv tij hmoob thaib rov mus ncig ua si tim nplog xwb nplog lawv tsis tas siab kiag li tso nplog zov rawv khuj kiag Passport mus cia lawm mus so qhov chaw twg los tso me nyuam nplog khuam phom zov rawv xwb yuam kom rov los xwg ntag tiam sis ho tsis kam muab passport rov qab thiab, ua ua tseem them nyiaj ntau kawg rau mam muab passport rov qab thiab cia li rov los tsev lawm xwb. khuv xim kuv tsis mus thiab yog mus thiab no kuv yuav tsis tso lawv tej kev RUDe no tseg yuav mus hais kom txog tom Thaib embassy thiab qhia tawm rau tib neeg ntiaj teb paub.

YD los lawv yeej paub tias yog VP tus neeg tseem ceeb uas tseem xa tau mus kawm txawj no tiam yog cov txawj xav me ntsis yeej paub tias muaj ab tsis tsw tsis zoo mloog lawm no mas. Ua tsaug os Bro
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View PostExile, on 24 March 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

pah
Tag nrho hmoob Meskas puas yog Nplog Liab cov yeeb ncuab?....kuv cia lawv los teb koj vim kuv tsis nrog lawv nyob ces tsis paub teb koj nawb.
Yeej muaj li koj hais mas lub caij sawvdaws khiav luag yeej tua neeg tiag mas vim luag yeej tsis pub sawvdaws khiav...tsis paub zoo tias lawv ntshai ib tsam xiam kasmoos los yog lawv ntshai ib tsam pejxeem khiav tag es lawv tsis muaj pej xeem kav nas.
"Tiamsis zoo li qhov luag tsis pub yus khiav ntawd yog zoo li luag tseem tshua yus thiab laiv", tam li kuv xav os.
Kuv mas ntshai ib tsam luag celi ordered kom yus cov Hmoob including cov 30 xyoo tawm kom tag hauv lub teb chaws Nplog mas ho yov muaj kev tu siab dhau thiab no.
Lawv yov hu peb ua Hmoob VP thiab Hmoob xavtus los tsuav lawv muaj zog xwb mas npawg pah aw, tsis mob kuv li os. Peb twb muab lawv hu ua Hmoob Liab/Nplog Liab thiab ne ces caus kas mas yom.

Lub tebchaws Nplog tshuaj lom neeg ntau npaud es kuv xav paub seb ua cas cov qub Nom nrog luag sib nyas tau 15+xyoo pheej yov xav rov mus taug kev tim tej taj laj xaub ua tus dabtsi mas, tsis ntshai tau caij qab plab dav hlaus rov los tsev los licas maj?..oib!

Kuv yog GVP mas LPDR muab carpet liab pua tuaj txog ntua Santa Ana thov kom kuv rov mus xyuas teb chaws Nplog kuv twb tsis kam mus nas, ua cas pheej yov ntshaw mus tsuj lub teb chaws Nplog ntawd ua tus dabtsi thiab?
Hais txog DYD!!!!!! :onionheadfake7: :onionheadfake6:
kuv analysed mus lino: Thaum tebchaws tawg yog DYD tsis xub khiav tuaj ces nws yeej taug Phab Nyas Touby lawv tib txoj kev thiab, i know there's no exception.
Vim licas LPDR ho pub thiab caw DYD rov mus xyuas Laos?
Vim tias nws tsis yog ib tug tub r og nrog luag muaj kev dub muag li cov qub tub r og, or/and nws tsis involved/supported kev kubxaj nrog GVP&Associates, yog li lub teb chaws Nplog tamsis no tsis muaj tsov muaj r og lawm luag thiaj pom thiab ntseeg tau tias DYD yov tsis mus tsim tau kev kub ntxhov rau luag lub tebchaws.
Tsis tag lintawd xwb: tejzaum luag pom tias politcal diplomacy important heev rau LPDR thiab Hmoob VP vim Hmoob VP los kuj tseem tshuav kwv tshuav tij nyob Laos coob heev, hos LPDR kuj needs Hmoob Meskas support NTR kom Hmoob VP tau rov mus pab txhim kho lub teb chaws Nplog thiab txhawb nqa cov neeg Nplog kom muaj vaj muaj tsev zoo thiab kev hlag luam.

(to be continued next time about GVP vs DYD)


Hahahahah Bro cas koj yuav hais txaus luag ua luaj naj !? yog luag tsis pub khiav vim xiam kaas moos mas twb zoo kawg li mas tiams is luag caum tua twb khiav tsis yeej li naj, peb cov kwv tij uas khiav ua qab raug tua tuag tas, ib cov kwv tij uas ncaim peb rov mus thawj nplog los raug tua tuag tas tshuav tus puav khiav tau rov los qhia xwb. Cov uas hla dej ua dab pos raug tua poob dej tuag tas tshuav ib tug tub yau raug dej tshoob mus poob rau zos pub thawj sub niam qhuav hnov hmoo thiab xwb.

Tijlaug tos luag tej laus tsis cia siab rau nplog lawm los vim lawv yeej ib txwm loj hlob nrog nplog paub nplog cwj pwm zoo ti txha lawm
mas. Qhov uas lawv ua yuam kev ces yog qhov xav rov qab mus txeeb kom tau teb chaws xwb os, Txawm li ntawd los vim yog luag ib txwm loj hlob ntawm lub teb chaws ntawd los tau ntau tiam neeg lawm muaj kev swm kev zoo kev phem rau lub teb chaws ntawd, tsis tas li luag ib txhia kwv tij neej tsa yeej tseem nyob tos ntsoov luag kev pab. pab no yog tawm thwm twg ces tuag xwb(vim muaj cov tawm los thawj nplog yeej tuag tas tsis tshuav lawm) Yog sawv daws lam txiav siab muab lub teb chaws ntawd txiav pov tseg kom tau nriav ib txoj kev uas tsis hais txawm yuav yog qaum rooj los sis qab rooj mus nyiag/coj kom tau yus cov neeg uas paub zoo tias yog tawm los thawj nplog no tuag 100% ntawd tawm los kom tas kom tau no yuav zoo heev. Cov nyiaj uas yav thauv lawv niaj hnub khaws los ua teb chaws ntawd yog muab ua ib thooj no yuav yog ntau txaus pab peb cov hmoob caub fab uas raug txim txom ntawd tau kawg. thiab yuav yooj yim dua kev yuav ua teb chaws, Vim txawm yog teb chaws nplog los yeej tseem tsis tau yog hmoob lub thiab, vim yeej ib txwm khiav qhov rau qhov los, hmoob yog ib nyuag pab me me xwb txhob rawm hais tsim lub teb chaws tiamsis tsim kom tau ib lub nroog tso los sis tsim kom tau ua ib lub 30 tso hahhahaha
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View PostExile, on 26 March 2011 - 11:24 AM, said:

Ok cia kuv rov tuaj hais txog qhov DYD tig pob tw rov rau GVP seb puas yog li kuv qhov analysis thiab notice nawb npawg pah.
Yog yov hais li koj hais ces thaub A yeej guilty 99.999%, tsis yog GVP thiaj chim xwb, txhua tus niam txiv thiab sponsor yeej chim tib yam vim yus yug ib tug menyuam loj thiab tso nws kawm txawj es nws celi tsis txhawb yus sab es celi mus tuaj lwm tus tog los yog nws yuav nws siab xwb.
Qhov DYD cheem kom GVP txhob rov mus ua teb chaws mas kuj muaj benefits rau both parties thiab yog sawvdaws ua tib zoo soj ntsuam los txij thaum GVP&Associates pib lawv txoj dej nug los txog ntua hnub lawv 12 leeg raug plaub.

DYD yeej muaj intention zoo thiab thiaj cheem GVP vim nws txawm tsis yog ib tug WAR HERO los nws yog ib tug EDUCATOR uas muaj kev txawj ntse rau kev analysis txog kam teb chaws thiab environment(kuv yov tsis hais details ntau), tiamsis muaj ntau tus qub nom including cov nom Nplog tog sabxis thiab Huab Tais tsev neeg tseem muaj zog thiab ntseeg tau tias kev mus kubxaj possibly xwb thiaj tas vim sawvdaws tseem nyuam qhuav tawm tebchaws xwb ces muaj li 70% tseem yog lawv tej qub neeg qub thabham khuam tas nyob Laos.
Tiamsis lawv nco tsis txog tias kev swb teb chaws zaum no tsis yog swb rau Pathet Lao, tiamsis swb rau North Vietnamese, Chinese, thiab Soviet. Tsis tas li xwb, US Government twb mus kos ntawv nrog cov teb Chaws no tias Meskas yov thim SouthEast Asia permanently tsis thov ua rrog nrog lawv ntxiv tsuav lawv xa Meskas cov POWs kom tas rov rau Meskas xwb---Meskas thiaj muaj tsab Bill Neutrallity Act.

Cov qub Nom hais los mas twb tsis yog violated Neutrallity Act, lawv tseem violated US Government tus Law/Constitution qees vim ib tug neeg nyob Meskas ua ntej yov sawv ua rrog tau rau lwm lub teb chaws yuav tsum yog CONGRESS thiab MR. PRESIDENT thiaj muaj cai declare WAR nkaus xwb(no one else).

Kev cheem GVP zaum no yog ib qho muaj txiaj ntsim rau GVP tiamsis qhov txiaj ntsim tig mus ua political enermy rau nkawv vim zoo li koj hais tas , yus tso nws txawj es nws tseem tsis kam tuaj yus sab-nyshe nws yog LIAB lawm ,qhov tseeb tiag yog DYD twb pom tau tej yam yov tshwm sim rau GVP tus legacy es nws thiaj cheem ua luaj.
Muaj ntau tus neeg cov qub nom tseem muab DYD tis ua neeg phem los txog niaj hnub no qhov DYD tsis npuab lawv sab.
Kuv xav mas zoo heev qhov DYD tsis npuab lawv sab, yog DYD tseem npuab lawv sab es cia DYD, GVP, thiab cov qub nom coj peb cov Hmoob Meskas rov mus nyob Phou Bia mas peb tuag twb yov tas laus niaj hnub no os---ntshe tej zaum koj thiab kuv twb mus thawj thiab ntev lawm los tsis paub thiab os yom.

Kuv xav tias txawm Mr. A yog tub los thaum nws pom nws txiv yov mus dhia dej Naj Khoom ces Mr. A yov tsum pab saved nws txim mas thiaj yog txiv tub txawj sib hlub tiag, hos twb pom nws txiv yov dhia lawm hauv pas dej tob muaj zaj los tseem txhawb ceev nrooj tias,"dhia kiag lawm hauv mas txiv"..tus neeg ntawd yog ntxias kom nws txiv mus txhob los xwb.

Kuv tseem pab chim rau cov neeg support kom GVP mus kubxaj, yog txhob muaj cov neeg txhawb nws qab ces nws twb tsis raug kaw kom xiam nws lub koob lub npe thiab.

I think DYD's decision to stop GVP is valuable heev, thiab kuv thov qhuas nws lub vision pom txog tej yam yov tsis zoo rau GVP thiab peb cov kwvtij hmoob nyob havzoov kev ploj tuag tau 35+ xyoo.


Ua tsaug ntau koj lam nyeem seb puas yog los tsis yog thiab vim lub caij ntawd los kuv tus kheej tseem yog cov quaavv tsw tog twg tsis paub zoo thiab ces thiaj hais tsis tas tej ntsiab history.


Tijlaug yeej yog yam zoo heev uas YD cheem VP txog kev kub xaj tiam sis yus yog tub luag yog txiv muaj txiaj ntsim lawm txawm cheem tsis tau los tsim nyog nyob tos saib txhaum qhov twg pab nws kho qhov ntawd los sis nyob twj ywm vim thaum yus muaj kev yuav pab tau hmoob tiag yus ho tsis taug twb raws luag qab txog ib nrab neej lawm mam pom luag ua tsis yog los kuj tseem zoo heev tsim nyog nyob twj ywm tiam sis ho tawm ntsej muag ua ib tog li ntawd tsis tsim nyog lawm.
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